alright her's the deal i'm 17 turning 18 in december and my girlfriend is 15 turning 16 in january i read this what does it meen and is our situation legal i love her very much and if it is not legal what is the penaltyand how long would i do time for i live in Phoenix, Arizona??????
"Arizona law allows a person under the age of 19, or a person atill in high school and less than two years older than the other party, to have consensual contactwith a 15 - 17 year old. so right now sex is permissable but once he is 19 ,if he is not still in highschool, adnhis girlfriend is 17, it is illegal"
please and thank you
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 01:42 PM
I don't know what you were quoting, but I believe it to be in error.
The actual statute:
13-1405. Sexual conduct with a minor; classifications
A. A person commits sexual conduct with a minor by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse or oral sexual contact with any person who is under eighteen years of age.
B. Sexual conduct with a minor who is under fifteen years of age is a class 2 felony and is punishable pursuant to section 13-604.01. Sexual conduct with a minor who is at least fifteen years of age is a class 6 felony. Sexual conduct with a minor who is at least fifteen years of age is a class 2 felony if the person is the minor's parent, stepparent, adoptive parent, legal guardian or foster parent and the convicted person is not eligible for suspension of sentence, probation, pardon or release from confinement on any basis except as specifically authorized by section 31-233, subsection A or B until the sentence imposed has been served or commuted.
Defenses -
13-1407. Defenses
F. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1405 if the victim is fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age, the defendant is under nineteen years of age or attending high school and is no more than twenty-four months older than the victim and the conduct is consensual.
The last one is the one that you have to worry about.... you are more than 24 months older than your girlfriend.... 25 months, granted, but the law is the law.
By the way, the legal definition of sexual conduct is....
"Sexual contact" means any direct or indirect touching, fondling or manipulating of any part of the genitals, anus or female breast by any part of the body or by any object or causing a person to engage in such contact.
Long post short... I think you are in trouble is someone wants to give you some....
How do her parents feel about your relationship?
vash3124
09-14-2006, 03:45 PM
well her mother said that she can't choose the person she dates and i know thats true that its parents choice till she's 18 and in the end she started arguing with her about me. Her mother said if he want to her father could throw me in jail. and i know he could. and i wouldnt mind doing time for her but i wanna know how much i'll be doing maximum and minimum. but he wont becouse she told him if he did she would leave at 18 and he would never see her again.
I have an other question she kinda live's in a disfunctional family and she was thinking about getting imancapated what are the laws on that and what are the requirements for that. would that help us out in anyway at all?
mommyof4
09-14-2006, 03:59 PM
Okay, Romeo, there is no girl on this earth worth going to jail for. Look at it this way...you love her so much that you go to prison. You get out, and if she is still waiting for you (BIG if) you now have a criminal record. How are you going to get a good, steady job to support the love of your life? Oh, and if you so happen to go to prison for a sexual offense, you get out and get to register as a sex offender. Well, there goes the dream of living in the cute little house a couple of blocks away from the shcool...of course, that may not be a hardship, because by then, the law may be passed that you don't even get to be around you own kids! (the restrictions are getting tougher every day)
No court is going to grant emancipation to a teenager because she lives in a "sort of dysfunctional family" and the dysfunctional family will not let her see her self sacrificing boyfriend. And it's REALLY not going to happen in AZ. There are no statutes for emancipation of a minor in AZ.
www.bostoncoop.net/lcd/emancipation/arizona.html (http://www.bostoncoop.net/lcd/emancipation/arizona.html)
Geez, y'all need to watch Endless Love (the censored version. No need to get all heated up over the movie).
Ummm, why is it that when I click on the link on your post, MY edit signature screen comes up? Does it come up when YOU click on the link?
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:10 PM
i still havent got the answer to my biggest question how long would i get minimum and maximum. and as far as a good job goes i will always have a job in the WWE
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 04:12 PM
As a father... if my 15 year old daughter said that she would leave and never return in 3 years unless I let her date you, I would chase you off the property with a flame thrower. That just proves that you are terrible for her... because she is willing to choose you over her family.
Besides, most parents are completely okay with our 18 year old kids leaving the house....
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 04:13 PM
i still havent got the answer to my biggest question how long would i get minimum and maximum. and as far as a good job goes i will always have a job in the WWE
Depending on the number and severity and what you two kids do... somewhere between 5 and 20 years.
Yeah... try that WWF line on your new love in prison. That will make them laugh before they start using a night with you as money.
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:15 PM
not never return in three years she would leave and never return period. she's like me she does'nt like her living conditions. she hates her family. but thats life in the barrio
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah... she would leave people that have cared for her her entire life... but she would never leave YOU.
LOL.
mommyof4
09-14-2006, 04:20 PM
Okay, simple answer...class 6 felony (for sexual conduct with a minor) is punishable by one year of imprisonment and registration on the sexual offender registration for life. If there are multiple charges, you can face alot more time. How's that?
WWE??? I'm sure that her parents will be so thrilled that you have your life plan set and ready to go.
Oh yeah, and if she leaves home before she is 18, she will be picked up and YOU get the joy of facing charges. Take her across state lines, and you get the fun of dealing with the feds. You might want to rethink this grand plan.
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 04:22 PM
And what I was saying before is that if you told most parents you were leaving at 18, they would make you put it in writing.
Anyway, you have your answer. Enjoy prison.
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:22 PM
hold up ese her parents never cared about her! her father used to put cigerettes out on her arm her mom tryed to drown her twice when she was 8 and when she was 12. her brother cahsed her with a knife and her uncle raped her. thay made her sleep with the dog out side a couple of time i really belive i can give her a better life then that. she deservies a better life. ive known her scence i was 4 and i've always been there for her thats why i think she will never leave me
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:25 PM
no during the grand plan i'm in prison and my coyotes will keep watch of her
cyjeff
09-14-2006, 04:26 PM
And you can give her a better life from a prison cell how?
Listen, if she is being abused, call the Department of Child Protective Services. You are not equipped or enpowered to help a 15 year old girl out of a tough situation.
You are not a white knight on a fiery steed that can save the fair damsel. You are a kid playing with fire and if you piss off the wrong party you will pay the price and she will STILL be getting abused.
Think about that... if you go to prison, who protects her then? Call the authorities, and then wait until she is legal.
mommyof4
09-14-2006, 04:27 PM
no during the grand plan i'm in prison and my coyotes will keep watch of her
Until they get sidetracked with with the shoot outs with their rivals and their own interests in little girls. Your "grand plan" sucks.
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:29 PM
what if she pregnate
mommyof4
09-14-2006, 04:29 PM
what if she pregnate
Congrats, you have just given the prosecution all the proof that they need to convict you.
vash3124
09-14-2006, 04:30 PM
nah my coyotes arnt a gang we bring in imagrents into the us
mommyof4
09-14-2006, 04:36 PM
nah my coyotes arnt a gang we bring in imagrents into the us
OMG...so you are going to be relying on these people that are dodging FEDERAL AGENTS to watch out for her? So what happens when they get busted, leave a few in a sweltering truck and are prosecuted for murder? You do realize that you are beginning to sound just a bit teched in the head, don't you? So, now, you are an aspiring WWE worker (what would you do, anyway???) illegal smuggling, child molestor. Hmmm, nice. What parent could ask for more for their 15 year old daughter? I'd just be over the moon!!! And your *** would be between your shoulders by the time I was done with you. Leave her alone. You got your answers. I don't think this "conversation" needs to continue.
Alice Dodd
09-14-2006, 06:08 PM
If you REALLY loved her, you'd do what is best for her, not thinking with your penis. If you're 18 it's time to act like a man and be responsible. Having sex with a minor is NOT responsible. The reason they have statutory rape laws is because teen sex with adult males is a huge factor in teen pregnancy rates. If she's being abused, then you are taking advantage of her by having this relationship. The last thing she needs is some guy willing to turn her into a Bonnie to your Clyde. Sorry, but a 15 year old girl in an abusive situation is vulnerable and you are taking advantage of that. And going to jail for her is just plain stupid, and demonstrates that you aren't good for her.
You have a lot of growing up to do. You've got 3 years to do that growing up, if you're smart enough to put it back in your pants until she's reached the age of consent. It's up to you. But everything you've proposed as a solution to this "problem", part of which you created, have shown a total lack of maturity and responsibility on your part.
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