dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c4f801$b0q$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Where Have All the Young Men Gone? March 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------- by Carey Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that lyrical ballad by Peter, Paul, and Mary? That was back in the 1960s. Forty years later, hundreds of thousands of unmarried American women are asking themselves exactly the same question. One of the reasons that so many women can't find a husband is that millions of men have declared a Marriage Strike. Men believe that family courts have become so unfair that in case of divorce, they will lose custody of their children and their ex will take them for all they're worth.

Which are actually not such good reasons not to get married. Even
though many marriages end in divorce, some marriages actually don't
end in divorce. When divorce does happen, the wife tends to have a
career of her own, and hence she is likely to be unsuccessful in her
attempts to take the man for all he's worth. And, if you take Mr
Roberts' (at least this sounds like a man's writing) logic a step too
far, you have to assume that men are choosing not to have children at
all because they're just going to lose custody of them a few years
down the road during the inevitable divorce--- which makes sense only
if having children you don't have custody of is worse than having no
kids at all (and that is not exactly a self-evident proposition!)

horrigan@aol.com (Timothy Horrigan) wrote in message news:<80981f23.0404061127.5a169b17@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c4f801$b0q$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Where Have All the Young Men Gone? March 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------- by Carey Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that lyrical ballad by Peter, Paul, and Mary? That was back in the 1960s. Forty years later, hundreds of thousands of unmarried American women are asking themselves exactly the same question. One of the reasons that so many women can't find a husband is that millions of men have declared a Marriage Strike. Men believe that family courts have become so unfair that in case of divorce, they will lose custody of their children and their ex will take them for all they're worth. Which are actually not such good reasons not to get married. Even though many marriages end in divorce, some marriages actually don't end in divorce. When divorce does happen, the wife tends to have a

There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds
in other situations in your life?
career of her own, and hence she is likely to be unsuccessful in her attempts to take the man for all he's worth. And, if you take Mr

Would you take these odds, too? How "unlikely" is it?
Roberts' (at least this sounds like a man's writing) logic a step too far, you have to assume that men are choosing not to have children at all because they're just going to lose custody of them a few years down the road during the inevitable divorce--- which makes sense only if having children you don't have custody of is worse than having no kids at all (and that is not exactly a self-evident proposition!)

Let's see. If you don't have children:
a) You don't see them
b) You don't pay for them

If you have children and don't have custody:
a) You don't see them
b) You pay for them

And this is only from the money side of the matter. Now add all the
heartache, nerve-wracking, anguish, etc. of a custody battle, and
perhaps it is self-evident.

horrigan@aol.com (Timothy Horrigan) wrote in message news:<80981f23.0404061127.5a169b17@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c4f801$b0q$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Where Have All the Young Men Gone? March 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------- by Carey Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that lyrical ballad by Peter, Paul, and Mary? That was back in the 1960s. Forty years later, hundreds of thousands of unmarried American women are asking themselves exactly the same question. One of the reasons that so many women can't find a husband is that millions of men have declared a Marriage Strike. Men believe that family courts have become so unfair that in case of divorce, they will lose custody of their children and their ex will take them for all they're worth. Which are actually not such good reasons not to get married. Even though many marriages end in divorce, some marriages actually don't end in divorce. When divorce does happen, the wife tends to have a

There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds
in other situations in your life?
career of her own, and hence she is likely to be unsuccessful in her attempts to take the man for all he's worth. And, if you take Mr

Would you take these odds, too? How "unlikely" is it?
Roberts' (at least this sounds like a man's writing) logic a step too far, you have to assume that men are choosing not to have children at all because they're just going to lose custody of them a few years down the road during the inevitable divorce--- which makes sense only if having children you don't have custody of is worse than having no kids at all (and that is not exactly a self-evident proposition!)

Let's see. If you don't have children:
a) You don't see them
b) You don't pay for them

If you have children and don't have custody:
a) You don't see them
b) You pay for them

And this is only from the money side of the matter. Now add all the
heartache, nerve-wracking, anguish, etc. of a custody battle, and
perhaps it is self-evident.

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There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life?

Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong.....


- From a report from the CDC

Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years

Duration of marriage is linked to a woman?s age at first marriage; the older
a woman is at first marriage, the longer that marriage is likely to last.
For example, 59 percent of marriages to brides under 18 end in separation
or divorce within 15 years, compared with 36 percent of those married at
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edwal wrote:
There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life?

Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong.....


- From a report from the CDC

Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years

Duration of marriage is linked to a woman?s age at first marriage; the older
a woman is at first marriage, the longer that marriage is likely to last.
For example, 59 percent of marriages to brides under 18 end in separation
or divorce within 15 years, compared with 36 percent of those married at
age 20 or older.


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Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote: There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong.....

Not at all...
- From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years

Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ",
but *all marriages*.

Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than
first marriages.

Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort
and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...
Duration of marriage is linked to a woman?s age at first marriage; the older a woman is at first marriage, the longer that marriage is likely to last.

Sure. Most women are bright enough to realise at, say, 40, that the
divorcing behaviors of 20 somehtings are, well, narcissistic and bad
choices...
For example, 59 percent of marriages to brides under 18 end in separation or divorce within 15 years, compared with 36 percent of those married at age 20 or older.

More apples and buicks...

<yawn>

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote: There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong.....

Not at all...
- From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years

Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ",
but *all marriages*.

Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than
first marriages.

Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort
and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...
Duration of marriage is linked to a woman?s age at first marriage; the older a woman is at first marriage, the longer that marriage is likely to last.

Sure. Most women are bright enough to realise at, say, 40, that the
divorcing behaviors of 20 somehtings are, well, narcissistic and bad
choices...
For example, 59 percent of marriages to brides under 18 end in separation or divorce within 15 years, compared with 36 percent of those married at age 20 or older.

More apples and buicks...

<yawn>

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote: There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...


Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that
single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And
that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners,
after marrried couples?

No, I didn't think so.

dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote: There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...


Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that
single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And
that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners,
after marrried couples?

No, I didn't think so.

echinopsia (echinopsia@yahoo.com) writes: dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote:> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds> in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...

NO answer to that point ? Good. I like it when Baby Feminists
*conceed*... <g>
Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic?

Feel free to *post some*...

One can certainly deduce that, for every women who stays single,
theres a guy in the same position...

AS in, marriage is 1 + 1. Take away one 1, you take away *both* 1s...
And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?

So ? Does that refute that single men are the largest buyers of
large screen teevees, and DVD player ?

Buying a houes, in a low interest rate market, is a good idea.
Its too bad that so many men can't afford to buy one, due to
their having been *raped* by the femicentric family kourt
system...

You just failed the " compare like to like " statistical test.
No, I didn't think

Indeed.
so.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

echinopsia (echinopsia@yahoo.com) writes: dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote:> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds> in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be...

NO answer to that point ? Good. I like it when Baby Feminists
*conceed*... <g>
Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic?

Feel free to *post some*...

One can certainly deduce that, for every women who stays single,
theres a guy in the same position...

AS in, marriage is 1 + 1. Take away one 1, you take away *both* 1s...
And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?

So ? Does that refute that single men are the largest buyers of
large screen teevees, and DVD player ?

Buying a houes, in a low interest rate market, is a good idea.
Its too bad that so many men can't afford to buy one, due to
their having been *raped* by the femicentric family kourt
system...

You just failed the " compare like to like " statistical test.
No, I didn't think

Indeed.
so.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?

How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?

How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

horrigan@aol.com (Timothy Horrigan) wrote in message news:<80981f23.0404061127.5a169b17@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c4f801$b0q$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Where Have All the Young Men Gone? March 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------- by Carey Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that lyrical ballad by Peter, Paul, and Mary? That was back in the 1960s. Forty years later, hundreds of thousands of unmarried American women are asking themselves exactly the same question. One of the reasons that so many women can't find a husband is that millions of men have declared a Marriage Strike. Men believe that family courts have become so unfair that in case of divorce, they will lose custody of their children and their ex will take them for all they're worth. Which are actually not such good reasons not to get married. Even though many marriages end in divorce, some marriages actually don't end in divorce.


Actually not such a good reason not to play Russian Roulette.
Even though many pulls of the trigger end up in death, some
pulls of the trigger DON'T result in death.


50% chance of divorce rate
16.67% chance of blowing your brains out.

Hmmmmm

When divorce does happen, the wife tends to have a career of her own, and hence she is likely to be unsuccessful in her attempts to take the man for all he's worth. And, if you take Mr Roberts' (at least this sounds like a man's writing) logic a step too far, you have to assume that men are choosing not to have children at all because they're just going to lose custody of them a few years down the road during the inevitable divorce--- which makes sense only if having children you don't have custody of is worse than having no kids at all (and that is not exactly a self-evident proposition!)

horrigan@aol.com (Timothy Horrigan) wrote in message news:<80981f23.0404061127.5a169b17@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c4f801$b0q$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Where Have All the Young Men Gone? March 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------- by Carey Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that lyrical ballad by Peter, Paul, and Mary? That was back in the 1960s. Forty years later, hundreds of thousands of unmarried American women are asking themselves exactly the same question. One of the reasons that so many women can't find a husband is that millions of men have declared a Marriage Strike. Men believe that family courts have become so unfair that in case of divorce, they will lose custody of their children and their ex will take them for all they're worth. Which are actually not such good reasons not to get married. Even though many marriages end in divorce, some marriages actually don't end in divorce.


Actually not such a good reason not to play Russian Roulette.
Even though many pulls of the trigger end up in death, some
pulls of the trigger DON'T result in death.


50% chance of divorce rate
16.67% chance of blowing your brains out.

Hmmmmm

When divorce does happen, the wife tends to have a career of her own, and hence she is likely to be unsuccessful in her attempts to take the man for all he's worth. And, if you take Mr Roberts' (at least this sounds like a man's writing) logic a step too far, you have to assume that men are choosing not to have children at all because they're just going to lose custody of them a few years down the road during the inevitable divorce--- which makes sense only if having children you don't have custody of is worse than having no kids at all (and that is not exactly a self-evident proposition!)

echinopsia@yahoo.com (echinopsia) wrote in message news:<c11bf4e.0404072002.4fc0a9f8@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote:> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds> in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be... Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very
presence is an erection-killer.

echinopsia@yahoo.com (echinopsia) wrote in message news:<c11bf4e.0404072002.4fc0a9f8@posting.google.com>... dg411@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<c51qoi$og6$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... Shadowheart (10816fyeg@simplicato.net) writes: edwal wrote:> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce. Would you accept that odds> in other situations in your life? Wow a soc.men post that has the facts wrong..... Not at all... - From a report from the CDC Forty-three percent of first marriages break-up within 15 years Apples. Buicks. Note that the OP was about not " first marriages ", but *all marriages*. Second and third marriages have a rate of divorce higher than first marriages. Thanks for showing, once again, that Baby Feminists will *distort and lie*, so as to *appear* righter than they can ever be... Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very
presence is an erection-killer.

spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:
echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men
and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of
men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle.

I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the
effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more
single women than single men.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind a contemporary cite, either.

--
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:
echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men
and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of
men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle.

I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the
effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more
single women than single men.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind a contemporary cite, either.

--
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce.

That statistic is correct perhaps somewhere, but in the USA and Canada
the divorce
rate is around 43 to 45 percent.

Considering the age of most people when they get married and their
experience, it
is amazing the divorce rate isn't higher.

The other mistake is that it has nothing to do with feminism directly.
When women were permitted to stay in the home and live on household
allowances,
women never left the marriage because they couldn't. Today with women
being
well educated, thousands of job opportunities, part-time and full-time,
women
believe that if the guy isn't holding up hise end of the marriage vows,
there
are other opportunities for the wife beyond her household allowance.
This
has nothing to do with femanism. It has to do with economics and civil
rights.

It used to be that men took a wife and built her a house to live in.
Today men and women sign a marriage contract and build a house and
family
together. A breach of contract has consequences.

It also used to be that men had to marry or take a wife. Now, only a
fool, and I
repeat only a fool would take a wife or marry unless they were committed
to the
process and all its consequences. While men still are programmed to
taking a wife
or marrying, in time - men are slow learners - they will consider their
options and
decide how they want to proceed. For many it may mean adopting a son as
a single parent
and doing it alone just as women are doing. Most men certianly have the
money to do it,
they just haven't figured it out or realized there are options in inside
and outside of
marriage just like there are options for the kind of beer they drink.

> There is a 60% chance of ending in divorce.

That statistic is correct perhaps somewhere, but in the USA and Canada
the divorce
rate is around 43 to 45 percent.

Considering the age of most people when they get married and their
experience, it
is amazing the divorce rate isn't higher.

The other mistake is that it has nothing to do with feminism directly.
When women were permitted to stay in the home and live on household
allowances,
women never left the marriage because they couldn't. Today with women
being
well educated, thousands of job opportunities, part-time and full-time,
women
believe that if the guy isn't holding up hise end of the marriage vows,
there
are other opportunities for the wife beyond her household allowance.
This
has nothing to do with femanism. It has to do with economics and civil
rights.

It used to be that men took a wife and built her a house to live in.
Today men and women sign a marriage contract and build a house and
family
together. A breach of contract has consequences.

It also used to be that men had to marry or take a wife. Now, only a
fool, and I
repeat only a fool would take a wife or marry unless they were committed
to the
process and all its consequences. While men still are programmed to
taking a wife
or marrying, in time - men are slow learners - they will consider their
options and
decide how they want to proceed. For many it may mean adopting a son as
a single parent
and doing it alone just as women are doing. Most men certianly have the
money to do it,
they just haven't figured it out or realized there are options in inside
and outside of
marriage just like there are options for the kind of beer they drink.

> That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer.

What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautiful
women, young, old, married, single.

> That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer.

What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautiful
women, young, old, married, single.

spammy (spammy@nospam.invalid) writes: echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples? How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

Indeed. But misandrists like echinopsia don't like to acknowledge
*that* imbalance...

Andre


--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

spammy (spammy@nospam.invalid) writes: echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples? How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house?

Indeed. But misandrists like echinopsia don't like to acknowledge
*that* imbalance...

Andre


--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:18:03 GMT, occupant
<electronicmailfixtosend@telust.net> wrote:
That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer.What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautifulwomen, young, old, married, single.

Aye, and that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:18:03 GMT, occupant
<electronicmailfixtosend@telust.net> wrote:
That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer.What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautifulwomen, young, old, married, single.

Aye, and that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."

occupant <electronicmailfixtosend@telust.net> wrote in message news:<407551BF.E1BB6632@telust.net>... That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer. What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautiful women, young, old, married, single.

....you're getting LSD from an IV-bag, aren't you....

occupant <electronicmailfixtosend@telust.net> wrote in message news:<407551BF.E1BB6632@telust.net>... That must be why so many of them are fat, revolting slobs whose very presence is an erection-killer. What kind of women do you know? Everywhere I look there are beautiful women, young, old, married, single.

....you're getting LSD from an IV-bag, aren't you....

noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.

That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind a contemporary cite, either.

noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:echinopsia wrote: Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.

That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind a contemporary cite, either.

sylvesterNtweety@toughguy.net (Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:
noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:echinopsia wrote:> Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that> single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And> that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners,> after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER.

ROFL!!! Dog, that's funny!

Really ignorant, but really funny.

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"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

sylvesterNtweety@toughguy.net (Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:
noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote:echinopsia wrote:> Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that> single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And> that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners,> after marrried couples?How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER.

ROFL!!! Dog, that's funny!

Really ignorant, but really funny.

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"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40772cd7.1819890@news.visi.com>... sylvesterNtweety@toughguy.net (Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote: >echinopsia wrote: >> Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that >> single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And >> that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, >> after marrried couples? > >How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER. ROFL!!! Dog, that's funny! Really ignorant, but really funny.

But nevertheless TRUE.

Why else are HORDES of single, wanting-marriage women moving to D.C.?????


Denying reality doesn't make it go away, you blithering idiot.

noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40772cd7.1819890@news.visi.com>... sylvesterNtweety@toughguy.net (Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:noneof@yourbusiness.com (Tim) wrote in message news:<40754d0d.245734@news.visi.com>... spammy <spammy@nospam.invalid> wrote: >echinopsia wrote: >> Um Andre? Would you care to try to refute the massive evidence that >> single women, not single men, are the fastest growing demographic? And >> that single women are the second-largest demographic of homeowners, >> after marrried couples? > >How could that be, hmmm? Couple divorce, wife gets house? Start by questioning the notion that there are an equal number of men and women in the population. Heck, Vietnam took tens of thousands of men out of the population, as will the current war-debacle. I recall reading a piece in Washingtonian back in the '80's to the effect that in the DC area of the day, there were ten percent more single women than single men.That's because women migrate there hoping to MARRY into POLITICAL POWER. ROFL!!! Dog, that's funny! Really ignorant, but really funny.

But nevertheless TRUE.

Why else are HORDES of single, wanting-marriage women moving to D.C.?????


Denying reality doesn't make it go away, you blithering idiot.