Kramer Vs. Kramer

"urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message
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ugh.... just an awful movie. Sickening.

True Romance - now *that's* a relationship movie.

JWB

"JWB" <jwbSPAMBEGONE3333@excite.com> wrote in message
news:0FNzb.161662$ri.23237351@twister.nyc.rr.com.. . "urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:mnNzb.21802$UG2.10222@nwrdny03.gnilink.net... Kramer Vs. Kramer ugh.... just an awful movie. Sickening. True Romance - now *that's* a relationship movie. JWB

It did have a happy ending.

"urf" <urf@nospam.com> writes:
Kramer Vs. Kramer

I thought of that one too; though maybe it is a bit of a downer for a
couple who are trying to become closer. A great movie, very
insightful about relationships, with fantastic acting.

"JWB" <jwbSPAMBEGONE3333@excite.com> writes:
"urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:mnNzb.21802$UG2.10222@nwrdny03.gnilink.net... Kramer Vs. Kramer ugh.... just an awful movie. Sickening.

Well, I don't know why you hated the movie. But it speaks volumes
about the way people take each other for granted, about how
relationships can go off course, and about how crises can be
opportunities for growth.

"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MjPzb.302704$9E1.1529925@attbi_s52... "JWB" <jwbSPAMBEGONE3333@excite.com> writes: "urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:mnNzb.21802$UG2.10222@nwrdny03.gnilink.net... Kramer Vs. Kramer ugh.... just an awful movie. Sickening. Well, I don't know why you hated the movie. But it speaks volumes about the way people take each other for granted, about how relationships can go off course, and about how crises can be opportunities for growth.

Well, I'm not a parent, so I find it hard to relate to.

I did find the boss' resentment over the fathers missed time at work
interesting.

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:52:30 GMT, "JWB" <jwbSPAMBEGONE3333@excite.com>
wrote:
"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelog@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:MjPzb.302704$9E1.1529925@attbi_s52... "JWB" <jwbSPAMBEGONE3333@excite.com> writes: "urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:mnNzb.21802$UG2.10222@nwrdny03.gnilink.net... > Kramer Vs. Kramer ugh.... just an awful movie. Sickening. Well, I don't know why you hated the movie. But it speaks volumes about the way people take each other for granted, about how relationships can go off course, and about how crises can be opportunities for growth.Well, I'm not a parent, so I find it hard to relate to.I did find the boss' resentment over the fathers missed time at workinteresting.

I recently saw Love Actually and.... actually liked it. Well, I liked
some of it anyway.

--Brian

urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote:
Kramer Vs. Kramer

The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful
Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about
marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages.

Emma Anne wrote:
The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages.

And in real life the woman LEFT the sick bastard.

Wendy

mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) writes:
urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote: Kramer Vs. Kramer The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages.

That was one of the good things about "In the bedroom." Of course a
_functioning_ marriage isn't much of a story by itself, so if a movie
shows you a functioning marriage, it is usually incidental.

mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) wrote:
urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote: Kramer Vs. KramerThe only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A BeautifulMind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are aboutmarriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages.

"Mr. Mom" was all about a healthy marriage. Each of them had to
change circumstances but the marriage survived just fine.

Doug Anderson wrote: mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) writes: urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote: Kramer Vs. Kramer The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages. That was one of the good things about "In the bedroom." Of course a _functioning_ marriage isn't much of a story by itself, so if a movie shows you a functioning marriage, it is usually incidental.

In The Bedroom? Was that the one done in Maine? Yeah, that was *really*
gripping, and it sure seemed REAL enough. (I think we're talking about the
same movie(?)

Wendy <no-spam@mtholyoke.edu> wrote:
Emma Anne wrote: The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages. And in real life the woman LEFT the sick bastard.

They got back together, though, after he got saner. Probably a much
healthier example. . .

Doug Anderson <ethelthelog@yahoo.com> wrote:
mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) writes: urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote: Kramer Vs. Kramer The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages. That was one of the good things about "In the bedroom." Of course a _functioning_ marriage isn't much of a story by itself, so if a movie shows you a functioning marriage, it is usually incidental.

I wonder if that is really true, though (that a functioning marriage
isn't intrinsically interesting). You'd have to show a marriage
functioning in some kind of interesting situation, obviously, but there
aren't many of those, even.

mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) writes:
Doug Anderson <ethelthelog@yahoo.com> wrote: mbjq@earthlink.net (Emma Anne) writes: urf <urf@nospam.com> wrote: > Kramer Vs. Kramer The only marriage movie I have been able to think of is "A Beautiful Mind." Most movies end when the marriage begins, or else they are about marriages breaking up. No one wants to show us functioning marriages. That was one of the good things about "In the bedroom." Of course a _functioning_ marriage isn't much of a story by itself, so if a movie shows you a functioning marriage, it is usually incidental. I wonder if that is really true, though (that a functioning marriage isn't intrinsically interesting).

I think a functioning marriage _is_ intrinsically interesting. It
just isn't very dramatic, so it doesn't provide much opportunity to
wrap a movie or story around it. If there is a functioning marriage
in a movie, it won't be the subject of the movie, but will be
incidental.

It's the old Tolstoy dictum about happy marriages and unhappy ones.
You'd have to show a marriage functioning in some kind of interesting situation, obviously, but there aren't many of those, even.

Right. It's like the question "why are there so many TV shows about
cops and so few about, say, social security bureacrats."