tbrghtmn@cs.com (Tbrghtmn) writes:
You're kids will perceive it as abandonment.

Not necessarily. Not if they come up with a good joint custody
arrangement.
why don't you just lay it on the line to your wife about what you want.

That's a good idea, and it may or may not work.
You and the kids come FIRST, and if she doesn't make a serious effort to grow up, you're leaving. Or you could just suck it up and stay. I bet this isn't the first time you've seen her put other things first, right? It's not all about you anymore.

But leaving his wife doesn't make it all about _him_ either. It is
perfectly possible to divorce and continue to put one's children
first. I don't know if this applies to Ty (is this the same as
"Tyrone" that was here a year and a half ago), but I think modeling a
bad marriage is very poor parenting. Better to get divorced if that
is you only other option.
From: tyronecode@yahoo.com (Ty)I've been married for 9 years now. 2 kids, 6 and 1 year old. Mywife's family is driving me nuts. I can't take it anymore. I can'ttolorate people calling all the time and coming over whenever theyfeel like it. My wife grew up like that and I didn't. It wasn't sobad until her sister moved near us. Now it's worse. She won't listento me. She's very close to them. Our relationship has never beenperfect. I only stayed because of the kids. But I just can't do itanymore. I'm not leaving my children. I'll move someplace close andstill be a part of their lives. I don't want to be with her any more. I'm ready to leave. Isn't it better to get out than stay home and beunhappy and argue all the time in front of the kids? She's not goingto want me to go, and she'll try to make me feel guilty for leavingthe kids. But I'd gladly take those kids with me. She won't wantthat. I'm not leaving the kids. I'm leaving HER.

maximum_effort1@hotmail.com (maximum) writes:
Doug Anderson <ethelthelog@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<m0adatjqqp.fsf@noether.uoregon.edu>... tbrghtmn@cs.com (Tbrghtmn) writes: You're kids will perceive it as abandonment. Not necessarily. Not if they come up with a good joint custody arrangement. why don't you just lay it on the line to your wife about what you want. That's a good idea, and it may or may not work. You and the kids come FIRST, and if she doesn't make a serious effort to grow up, you're leaving. Or you could just suck it up and stay. I bet this isn't the first time you've seen her put other things first, right? It's not all about you anymore. But leaving his wife doesn't make it all about _him_ either. It is perfectly possible to divorce and continue to put one's children first. I don't know if this applies to Ty (is this the same as "Tyrone" that was here a year and a half ago), but I think modeling a bad marriage is very poor parenting. Better to get divorced if that is you only other option. Bull**** Doug. His wife didn't do anything wrong that we know of. Ty just wants out because people are coming over and calling all the time. this is totally bogus. it is NOT better to get divorced. it is NOT his only option. he is one of the last people who NEEDS a divorce. this guy needs to grow up or stop trolling.

Divorce is never the ONLY option. That doesn't mean it isn't
sometimes the best option.

> Divorce is never the ONLY option. That doesn't mean it isn't sometimes the best option.

that is very rarely true. divorce is USUALLY the WORST option.