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cimrmore
05-28-2006, 01:21 PM
Heres one for anyone that may have some advise. My 18 year old son had a one night stand with a girl from his school (he was very very drunk and she was sober). They have hung around all year and she has been telling everyone that she was 17. Well the one night stand also has brought a baby into the picture. It has also brought out the truth.. she has been lieing to everyone about her age including her friends and she is only 15. Her father has of course gone crazy and is threatening rape charges rather than rationalizing what is going on.

She and another girl stayed the night at the house where my son was (this is another male 18 year olds home) Of course I understand thats his little girl, but I also dont understand why her parents allowed this girl to run the street all night long. She and her friend left the boys house that morning around 7 am. When he started yelling rape I immediatly sent my son out of state not only for his own safety, but until I can find out whats going on.. to date they have not contacted us to confirm this story. The mom wants to give him a cool down time.

Surely there has to be exceptions to these statutory rape cases. If the girl is deliberatly going around and decieving everyone she knows about her age telling them she is 17, I have had at least 10 kids tell me that she has presented her self stating she is 17 and are willing to come forward. they say there are more at school.

I also learned from her best friend that she told her and some other girls that she was not a virgin and my son was the 3rd boy she had been with. Now she is stating she was a virgin and lied about being sexually active to "fit in". This is so messed up, we dont know what to do to protect our son, also she has a very hostile father who from what information I have been told has a anger problem and I also worry about the well being of my grandchild when it is born. My concern is my son, her (both emotionally and physically) and the baby.

Any advised is appreciated

confused232
05-28-2006, 04:56 PM
Age of consent in LA is 17. Your son is in quite a sticky situation. I'm not sure if LA's law has a defense if they thought the "child" was at or above the age of consent. I will try to find the actual statute later.

cimrmore
05-30-2006, 07:25 AM
I didnt think about like that, all I felt was that here is a father acting irrational. He is a hunter, so we know he has guns and his girl is pregant, he is looking at vengance. My son had already planned to go out of town for summer work as there he can make better money, he is still planning to come home when school starts back up. We are 6 days now with no contact from her parents. More information has come out as several other kids that they hang around have come forward and validated my sons story. Its a mix of both boys and girls. The more I think about it I am starting to get mad. Mad at the fact that these minors can be allowed to lie and decieve the older boys. The boys pay the ultimate price... CHILD MOLESTOR.. The girls get away scott free with no ramifications and then do it all over again. When do they take responsibilty for their actions? I think the parents should be held responsible. errr.. Im just so frustrated.. this waiting is driving me crazy and breaking my heart.

elklaw
05-30-2006, 08:45 AM
Well you sent your son out of state for his safety so he would not be hunted down it sounds like, and nothing is wrong with that given the type of language being hurled about. Hopefully, there is prosecutorial discretion here in that no charges will be brought.
I do not want to make you upset but you have another battle looming- child support and custody. I suspect they will seek the max on support but try to deny any and all custody and visitation with threats of seeking prosecution. You need to get a very skilled local attorney to advise you about how to diffuse this situation and shut these people down fast, as they may have some dirt on them too. It also might be possible if the situation is dangerous enough, for you to seek custody of the child if the father is making threatening remarks and has guns around threatending to use them and the mother is underage, a known liar and has bad morals.
You may want to make police reports when the father makes threats involving guns also. But you need a really good attorney to get advice from as you have many issues to deal with and need to get things prepared and figure out your plan and how to implement it.

cbg
05-30-2006, 08:49 AM
Bottom line; don't have sex with someone unless you know for a fact how old they are.

Or maybe it should be, don't have sex with someone you don't know. Especially if you're drunk.

mommyof4
05-30-2006, 09:45 AM
Heres one for anyone that may have some advise. My 18 year old son had a one night stand with a girl from his school (he was very very drunk and she was sober). They have hung around all year and she has been telling everyone that she was 17. Well the one night stand also has brought a baby into the picture. It has also brought out the truth.. she has been lieing to everyone about her age including her friends and she is only 15. Her father has of course gone crazy and is threatening rape charges rather than rationalizing what is going on.

She and another girl stayed the night at the house where my son was (this is another male 18 year olds home) Of course I understand thats his little girl, but I also dont understand why her parents allowed this girl to run the street all night long. She and her friend left the boys house that morning around 7 am. When he started yelling rape I immediatly sent my son out of state not only for his own safety, but until I can find out whats going on.. to date they have not contacted us to confirm this story. The mom wants to give him a cool down time.

Surely there has to be exceptions to these statutory rape cases. If the girl is deliberatly going around and decieving everyone she knows about her age telling them she is 17, I have had at least 10 kids tell me that she has presented her self stating she is 17 and are willing to come forward. they say there are more at school.

I also learned from her best friend that she told her and some other girls that she was not a virgin and my son was the 3rd boy she had been with. Now she is stating she was a virgin and lied about being sexually active to "fit in". This is so messed up, we dont know what to do to protect our son, also she has a very hostile father who from what information I have been told has a anger problem and I also worry about the well being of my grandchild when it is born. My concern is my son, her (both emotionally and physically) and the baby.

Any advised is appreciated
Wait, she IS (was at the time of sexual contact) 15? Not 14? It's an important distinction. And your son is (was) 18 at the time of the sexual contact?

cimrmore
05-30-2006, 10:10 AM
He is/was 18 and she is/was 15 thats whats come out since she found out she is pregnant. She had told him and all the people that they ran with that she was 17.

He is starting a job for the summer and is going to put back 20% of his checks into a savings acct so when the baby comes he has something built up, he is wanting visitation and wants to be the father to the child.

I guess the thing that is making me sick is the waiting, I still dont understand why they havent called and talked to us, so for us, it makes us think "the worse". I was told that we should not initiate the contact it really needed to come from them. So I just keep a bottle of Asprin around for the stress aches.

mommyof4
05-30-2006, 12:41 PM
Age of consent in LA is 17. Your son is in quite a sticky situation. I'm not sure if LA's law has a defense if they thought the "child" was at or above the age of consent. I will try to find the actual statute later.
As the boy is not 19, and the girl is not UNDER the age of 15, it won't be that bad. There could be other charges brought, but not to the level of felonious carnal knowledge of a minor. That is why I asked EXACTLY how old they were at the time of the offense.

What he might be facing is MISDEMEANOR carnal knowledge of a juvenile.

RS 14:80.1

Misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile is when a person is 17+, but less than 19 has sexual intercourse, with consent, with a minor that is 15+ but less than 17 when the victim is not a spouse,and the age difference is greater than 2 years.

lack of knowledge concerning the victim's age is not a defense.

The offender can be fined up to $1000 or imprisoned for up to 6 months, or both.

The offender shall be eligible to have the conviction set aside and the prosecution dismissed in accordance with the appropriate provisions of the criminal code of LA.

The offender is NOT subject to any provisions applicable to sex offenders, including registration of sex offenders.

www.law.cornell.edu/topics/state_statutes.html

cimrmore
05-31-2006, 12:45 PM
Today we recieved ye another phone call from one of the school kids about our son, Now the story is yet again changing to her father is out "looking" for our son and has also got his son who is an adult also "looking". The kid that called me I also feel is trying to fish me for information. (He told me that the girl was out "partying" this weekend and told him she was preganant and her dad was looking for a peice of our son along with her brother.) The kid said he "really needs to talk with my son" and kept asking me for his number, I told him he needed to stay out of it.

My question now is what should we do? We dont really have the money for an attorney right now. (I just had surgery and on s/t leave) If we call and speak with a police officer or the DA about it, cant this possibly back fire on our son? My husband and I are getting very tired of the way these "threats" are being sent through children. Its like everyone is off track here. They dont dare call and speak with us which I find strange, since the father is looking for him.

I spoke to my son and he is really worried that if she out partying that it will cause problems with the baby. We also found a "Myspace" acct that she has and she again lies about her age there as 16. She goes onto say that she likes "boys, partying and friends". We still cannot find out her last name and none of these kids says they know it .

Are there any legal aid type programs that can help him without charges or does he have to wait for charges to be pressed.

mommyof4
05-31-2006, 12:51 PM
Today we recieved ye another phone call from one of the school kids about our son, Now the story is yet again changing to her father is out "looking" for our son and has also got his son who is an adult also "looking". The kid that called me I also feel is trying to fish me for information. (He told me that the girl was out "partying" this weekend and told him she was preganant and her dad was looking for a peice of our son along with her brother.) The kid said he "really needs to talk with my son" and kept asking me for his number, I told him he needed to stay out of it.

My question now is what should we do? We dont really have the money for an attorney right now. (I just had surgery and on s/t leave) If we call and speak with a police officer or the DA about it, cant this possibly back fire on our son? My husband and I are getting very tired of the way these "threats" are being sent through children. Its like everyone is off track here. They dont dare call and speak with us which I find strange, since the father is looking for him.

I spoke to my son and he is really worried that if she out partying that it will cause problems with the baby. We also found a "Myspace" acct that she has and she again lies about her age there as 16. She goes onto say that she likes "boys, partying and friends". We still cannot find out her last name and none of these kids says they know it .

Are there any legal aid type programs that can help him without charges or does he have to wait for charges to be pressed.
If your son or your family is feeling threatened, a police report needs to be filed. Even IF it will open your son up to charges, it is not a felony and you need him to remain safe.

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