RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about
being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local
Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case
anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want
to hear.

Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.
You were therefore obtained by fraud.

"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.

My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with
their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.
wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing the
lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always
held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.

Marley

>Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing thelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.Marley

And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was getting free
therapy for life!


-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041210182709.11907.00001508@mb-m16.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowingthelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.Marley And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was getting free therapy for life!

I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life.
She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway,
she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything
she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of
intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.

Marley ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

"I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce that all my wealth won't buy me health
so I smoked a pint of tea a day.." Simpon and Garfunkle, 196? Did I
actually remember that correctly?

Raymond

I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks. Marley ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

Simon and Garfunkle, that is. ;-}


"sylak" <sylak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:qdmdnZgGIsIzwifcRVn-pQ@adelphia.com... "I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce that all my wealth won't buy me health so I smoked a pint of tea a day.." Simpon and Garfunkle, 196? Did I actually remember that correctly? Raymond I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks. Marley ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

"sylak" <sylak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:qdmdnZgGIsIzwifcRVn-pQ@adelphia.com... "I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce that all my wealth won't buy me health so I smoked a pint of tea a day.." Simpon and Garfunkle, 196? Did I actually remember that correctly? Raymond

I don't kow if you did or not!

Marley I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks. Marley ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing thelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.

Why do you think we adopt, Marley?

J.
Marley





Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in message
news:20041210225314.06545.00001708@mb-m15.aol.com..."Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowingthelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you. Why do you think we adopt, Marley? J.

Absolutely You're looking for free labor to pull weeds. I must say though
that my mother caught on quite early that I was not interested in cooking.
The whole time I lived with my parents until I got married I tried to cook
once . That was a bacon and cheese quiche, and my mother had a fit that I
would even want to eat something like that, much less cook it. Being an
amom, her idea of exotic food was frozen Spanish rice and city chicken..

Marley
Marley Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud. My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it. wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing the lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.

LOL - You TOO! I also had to weed! How terrible! Of course, this was
between the trips to Paris and Rome ;)

And Di, if you're reading this, you're a bitter old ***** and I plonked you
a long time ago. I couldn't give a **** that my parents weren't religious
and what they told the adoption agency. I bet I had more in my life than
you did and that's what really burns you, isn't it. BTW, my adad just died
and wherever he is, I bet he's laughing at you. Put that in your bitter
bmom pipe and smoke it.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041210182709.11907.00001508@mb-m16.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com...> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want> to hear.>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.> You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowingthelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.Marley And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was getting free therapy for life! I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.

I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital at
Gainesville, FL back in the early 80s. I gotta say that all the
psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own problems. I thought that
was pretty hilarious at the time ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in message
news:20041210225314.06545.00001708@mb-m15.aol.com..."Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowingthelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you. Why do you think we adopt, Marley?

LOL! I knew it! Cheap help, right? :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

>Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:26 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3207apF3g6lveU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041210182709.11907.00001508@mb-m16.aol.com... >Subject: Re: To Robyn>From: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net>Date: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard Time>Message-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>>>>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message>news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om...>> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about>> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local>> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case>> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want>> to hear.>>>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.>> You were therefore obtained by fraud.>>My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with>their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.>wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing>the>lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always>held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.>>Marley And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was getting free therapy for life! I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital atGainesville, FL back in the early 80s.

I also worked in the acute care psychiatric ward in our regional hospital
back in the early 80's. Oh the stories I could tell. Glad I got the hell out
of there after two years, but it was an invaluable life experience.
I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own
problems.I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;)

Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job.
One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he
insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station.

Dad

"AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211095923.21610.00001564@mb-m12.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:26 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3207apF3g6lveU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

snip I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital atGainesville, FL back in the early 80s. I also worked in the acute care psychiatric ward in our regional hospital back in the early 80's. Oh the stories I could tell. Glad I got the hell out of there after two years, but it was an invaluable life experience.

I was actually only the department's secretary and had very little contact
with the patients, though I do recall being up at the "mental ward" when
they bought in some guy that though he was Dracula and had been running
around the U of F campus trying to bite people on the neck.
I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own problems.I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;) Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station.

Good gracious, talk about a wrong job choice ;p
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in messagenews:20041210225314.06545.00001708@mb-m15.aol.com..."Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.g oogle.com...> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want> to hear.>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.> You were therefore obtained by fraud.My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed withtheir yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowingthelawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've alwaysheld the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you. Why do you think we adopt, Marley? J.Absolutely You're looking for free labor to pull weeds. I must say thoughthat my mother caught on quite early that I was not interested in cooking.The whole time I lived with my parents until I got married I tried to cookonce . That was a bacon and cheese quiche, and my mother had a fit that Iwould even want to eat something like that, much less cook it. Being anamom, her idea of exotic food was frozen Spanish rice and city chicken..Marley

Don't forget the picket fence painting, lawnmowing, garbage hauling, dishes,
laundry, snow shoveling, and pedicures we get out of them. I can't imagine
asking mine to cook, too.

Is "city chicken" squirrel or another, less appetizing rodent?

J.




Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

"AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211095923.21610.00001564@mb-m12.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:26 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3207apF3g6lveU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041210182709.11907.00001508@mb-m16.aol.com...> >Subject: Re: To Robyn>>From: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net>>Date: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard Time>>Message-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>>>>>>>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message>>news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om...>>> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about>>> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local>>> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case>>> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want>>> to hear.>>>>>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal>>> fraud.>>> You were therefore obtained by fraud.>>>>My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed>>with>>their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.>>wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad>>mowing>>the>>lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've>>always>>held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.>>>>Marley>> And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was> getting> free> therapy for life! I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital atGainesville, FL back in the early 80s. I also worked in the acute care psychiatric ward in our regional hospital back in the early 80's. Oh the stories I could tell. Glad I got the hell out of there after two years, but it was an invaluable life experience.I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own problems.I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;) Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station. Dad

Were the patients adopted?

Marley

"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in message
news:20041211112723.15969.00001776@mb-m02.aol.com..."J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in messagenews:20041210225314.06545.00001708@mb-m15.aol.com...>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message>news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om...>> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about>> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local>> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case>> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want>> to hear.>>>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.>> You were therefore obtained by fraud.>>My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with>their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.>wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing>the>lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've>always>held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you. Why do you think we adopt, Marley? J.Absolutely You're looking for free labor to pull weeds. I must saythoughthat my mother caught on quite early that I was not interested in cooking.The whole time I lived with my parents until I got married I tried to cookonce . That was a bacon and cheese quiche, and my mother had a fit that Iwould even want to eat something like that, much less cook it. Being anamom, her idea of exotic food was frozen Spanish rice and city chicken..Marley Don't forget the picket fence painting, lawnmowing, garbage hauling, dishes, laundry, snow shoveling, and pedicures we get out of them. I can't imagine asking mine to cook, too. Is "city chicken" squirrel or another, less appetizing rodent? J.

It appears to be mystery meat on a stick. It was invented during the
Depression when I guess real chicken was too expensive My mother also
favored chipped beef and gravy on pancakes and waffles . Actually, I like it
to, but this was a fairly regular dinner And, of course, sweet breds.

Marley Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

>Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 10:48 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <320j5kF3fu4roU1@individual.net>"AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:20041211095923.21610.00001564@mb-m12.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:26 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3207apF3g6lveU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...snip> I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting> life.> She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends.> Anyway,> she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of> everything> she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of> intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the> shrinks.I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital atGainesville, FL back in the early 80s. I also worked in the acute care psychiatric ward in our regional hospital back in the early 80's. Oh the stories I could tell. Glad I got the hell out of there after two years, but it was an invaluable life experience.I was actually only the department's secretary and had very little contactwith the patients, though I do recall being up at the "mental ward" whenthey bought in some guy that though he was Dracula and had been runningaround the U of F campus trying to bite people on the neck.

I have a couple dozen or so of those stories, but I don't have the time to
get into them right now.

My official title was "Psychiatric Assistant" - we perfomed the admission
procedures, participated in some family counseling, reported any change in the
patient's mood or affect to the attending psychiatrist, etc. I even witnessed
ECT therapy on perhaps 5 or 6 patients during my time there. But the real
reason I was hired was to respond to any dangerous situations that might erupt
on the unit at any time - a glorified bouncer.

We had the only locked unit in the county so we got most of the involuntary
commitments and all the transfers from the prison - which means my bouncer
"services" were required at least once a week. With a little help from the ER
technicians, I personally had to run down and retrieve three inmates who had
escaped at shift change or from OT.

Great experience... dead end job. I returned to college to finish my degree
after two years.
I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own problems.I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;) Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station.Good gracious, talk about a wrong job choice.

Some 5' 2" 80 lb anorexic threatened him one time. I swear he peed his
pants.

Dad

>Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 12/11/2004 12:11 PM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <HSFud.114230$7i4.37857@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>

< snip >
Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station. DadWere the patients adopted?

Actually, one of the psychiatrists was. The good one, as a matter of fact.

I couldn't tell you how many adoptees we had on the unit. We did have our
share of Amish, though.

Dad

"AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211130318.06631.00001116@mb-m24.aol.com...Subject: Re: To RobynFrom: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 12/11/2004 12:11 PM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <HSFud.114230$7i4.37857@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> < snip > Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station. DadWere the patients adopted? Actually, one of the psychiatrists was. The good one, as a matter of fact. I couldn't tell you how many adoptees we had on the unit. We did have our share of Amish, though. Dad

Almost the same thing.

BTW, Dad, please send any eligible Amish men my way.

Marley

In article <20041211125909.06631.00001115@mb-m24.aol.com>,
adoptadad@aol.com (AdoptaDad) wrote:

I have a couple dozen or so of those stories, but I don't have the time to get into them right now.


Someday I'll have to tell you the story of how I met "The God Jupiter"
while in medical school.




steve

Back a "few" years I worked as the security officer for the commitment court
at the State Hospital for mental patients. It was my job to bring the high
security (read homicidal) patients from the secure ward to the court and
back. Generally it went reasonably well as they were pretty well medicated
for the session. One 6'6", 360lb gentleman waited until I turned him back
over to the folks in the ward before he walked up to the first staff person
and broke his jaw in three places. Life experience, oh yeah. Hmmmm, I never
did find out if he was an adoptee or not..

Raymond

"AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211125909.06631.00001115@mb-m24.aol.com...

snip I have a couple dozen or so of those stories, but I don't have the time to get into them right now.

Hoo! I bet you do! My official title was "Psychiatric Assistant" - we perfomed the admission procedures, participated in some family counseling, reported any change in the patient's mood or affect to the attending psychiatrist, etc. I even witnessed ECT therapy on perhaps 5 or 6 patients during my time there. But the real reason I was hired was to respond to any dangerous situations that might erupt on the unit at any time - a glorified bouncer. We had the only locked unit in the county so we got most of the involuntary commitments and all the transfers from the prison - which means my bouncer "services" were required at least once a week. With a little help from the ER technicians, I personally had to run down and retrieve three inmates who had escaped at shift change or from OT.

We had a separate facility which housed people that that had committed
crimes, but were deemed mentally ill. I used to transcribe their
evaluations. VERY interesting. One guy was hallucinating that he was being
attacked by Ninjas.
Great experience... dead end job. I returned to college to finish my degree after two years.>I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their>own problems.>I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;) Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at his job. One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station.Good gracious, talk about a wrong job choice. Some 5' 2" 80 lb anorexic threatened him one time. I swear he peed his pants.

SNARK! Oh dear ;)
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:321bnpF3gp6bpU2@individual.net... "AdoptaDad" <adoptadad@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041211125909.06631.00001115@mb-m24.aol.com... snip I have a couple dozen or so of those stories, but I don't have the time to get into them right now. Hoo! I bet you do! My official title was "Psychiatric Assistant" - we perfomed the admission procedures, participated in some family counseling, reported any change in the patient's mood or affect to the attending psychiatrist, etc. I even witnessed ECT therapy on perhaps 5 or 6 patients during my time there. But the real reason I was hired was to respond to any dangerous situations that might erupt on the unit at any time - a glorified bouncer. We had the only locked unit in the county so we got most of the involuntary commitments and all the transfers from the prison - which means my bouncer "services" were required at least once a week. With a little help from the ER technicians, I personally had to run down and retrieve three inmates who had escaped at shift change or from OT. We had a separate facility which housed people that that had committed crimes, but were deemed mentally ill. I used to transcribe their evaluations. VERY interesting. One guy was hallucinating that he was being attacked by Ninjas. Great experience... dead end job. I returned to college to finish my degree after two years.>>I gotta say that all the psychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their>>own> problems.>>I thought that was pretty hilarious at the time ;)>> Of the four full-time staff psychiatrists, only one was effective at> his> job.> One particular psychiatrist was so fearful of mental health patients he> insisted on an escort whenever he ventured outside the nurses station.Good gracious, talk about a wrong job choice. Some 5' 2" 80 lb anorexic threatened him one time. I swear he peed his pants. SNARK! Oh dear ;) -- --------- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557

I listened to one of the local evangelical radio hosts today that I track.
He was in better form than usual. (On one show this summer he spent 2 hours
trying to get a pet rock to talk by pouring water over it). He "connected
the dots" to Dimebag's murder--the direct line from John Lennon's
"Imagine" to the teaching of evolution in the schools. Since Nathan Gale
learned in school that his origins are pond scum, then it's OK to kill
people. Why didn't I think of that? It makes life so much more simple.

Marley

"sylak" <sylak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:dM-dnVzaDLBpxCbcRVn-pA@adelphia.com... Back a "few" years I worked as the security officer for the commitment
court at the State Hospital for mental patients. It was my job to bring the high security (read homicidal) patients from the secure ward to the court and back. Generally it went reasonably well as they were pretty well medicated for the session. One 6'6", 360lb gentleman waited until I turned him back over to the folks in the ward before he walked up to the first staff
person and broke his jaw in three places. Life experience, oh yeah. Hmmmm, I
never did find out if he was an adoptee or not.. Raymond

A psychiatrist was murdered by one of his patients (the son of a prominent
judge) in our area. Sometimes people who deal with the mentally ill have
reason to worry.

Kathy 1

>"Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:26 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3207apF3g6lveU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:6Hqud.111743$7i4.43956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041210182709.11907.00001508@mb-m16.aol.com... >Subject: Re: To Robyn>From: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net>Date: 12/10/2004 4:24 PM Mountain Standard Time>Message-id: <%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>>>>"Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message>news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om...>> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about>> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local>> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case>> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want>> to hear.>>>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.>> You were therefore obtained by fraud.>>My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with>their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it.>wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing>the>lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always>held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.>>Marley And "both" my parents were psychiatrists. My bmom thought I was getting free therapy for life! I had a friend in college whose former SIL led quite an interesting life. She was a therapist and Lenny Bruce was one of her best friends. Anyway, she had 2 kids that she screwed around. She kept a journal of everything she did to them so when they got older instead of going through a lot of intrusive therapy, they could just turn the notebooks over to the shrinks.I worked for the Dept. of Psychiatry at Shands Teaching Hospital atGainesville, FL back in the early 80s. I gotta say that all thepsychiatrist there most DEFINITELY had their own problems. I thought thatwas pretty hilarious at the time ;)--

I realize this is much later than the post--but I've been hideously busy.
Anyway, at my old job we had a child psychiatrist. After she'd leave, we'd all
scream, "physician, heal thyself!" What a nut.
---------RobynResident Witchypoo#1557


kj

>: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:24 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <32077kF3h082uU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om... RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want to hear. Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud. You were therefore obtained by fraud. My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it. wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing the lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.LOL - You TOO! I also had to weed! How terrible! Of course, this wasbetween the trips to Paris and Rome ;)And Di, if you're reading this, you're a bitter old ***** and I plonked youa long time ago. I couldn't give a **** that my parents weren't religiousand what they told the adoption agency. I bet I had more in my life thanyou did and that's what really burns you, isn't it. BTW, my adad just diedand wherever he is, I bet he's laughing at you. Put that in your bitterbmom pipe and smoke it.--

Hey Robyn, I'm really sorry to hear about your dad.
---------RobynResident Witchypoo#1557


kj

"kj" <kjs668@aol.comeek> wrote in message
news:20041220221413.06403.00001578@mb-m22.aol.com...: "Robibnikoff" witchypoo@broomstick.comDate: 12/11/2004 7:24 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <32077kF3h082uU1@individual.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:%equd.111670$7i4.96945@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "Dian" <patrice068@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:9a095db9.0412100327.19072b2e@posting.google.c om...> RE:Interesting. BTW, my aparents lied to the adoption agency about> being "good church going folk" and joined and attended a local> Methodist church until the finalization of my adoption just in case> anyone actually checked. Sometimes people just tell you what you want> to hear.>> Anyone who uses lies to gain an advantage is committing a legal fraud.> You were therefore obtained by fraud. My aparents, accoroding to court records, apparently were obsessed with their yard and spent a good amount of time caring for it. wwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't remember my dad mowing the lawn himself past 1948. But both of them forced me to weed. I've always held the principle that you pay people to do this crap for you.LOL - You TOO! I also had to weed! How terrible! Of course, this wasbetween the trips to Paris and Rome ;)And Di, if you're reading this, you're a bitter old ***** and I plonkedyoua long time ago. I couldn't give a **** that my parents weren't religiousand what they told the adoption agency. I bet I had more in my life thanyou did and that's what really burns you, isn't it. BTW, my adad justdiedand wherever he is, I bet he's laughing at you. Put that in your bitterbmom pipe and smoke it.-- Hey Robyn, I'm really sorry to hear about your dad.

Oh, thank you. I'm doing fine, but it's been very hard on my mom. We'll
get through it.
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Resident Witchypoo
#1557