We had a resignation on the assignment of a newborn late last night
December 4th, 2004. The child is available for immediate assignment
to a qualified couple. The children can be seen at
www.naftaexecutives.com, in the "New Born" page. Fees are listed in
the "Downloads" page. Please review our site and forward us your
questions.

Thnak you,

Samuel Chavez
Director, Executive Associates

www.naftaexecutives.com

Assignment is to be made on December 18th, 2004

>We had a resignation on the assignment of a newborn late last nightDecember 4th, 2004. The child is available for immediate assignmentto a qualified couple. The children can be seen atwww.naftaexecutives.com, in the "New Born" page. Fees are listed inthe "Downloads" page. Please review our site and forward us yourquestions.Thnak you,Samuel ChavezDirector, Executive Associateswww.naftaexecutives.comAssignment is to be made on December 18th, 2004

From the referenced web site:

http://www.naftaexecutives.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/profess
ional_fees1.doc

[Per capita income, Mexico 2001: US $5,540.00. J.]

ADOPTION EXPENSES

Caveat: Please remember that we are not "facilitators"! We are all
professionals with legal training serving in various capacities to make this
program function. We advertise for and sponsor pregnant women who have
unwanted pregnancies and thus we manage all facets of the process from child
acquisition to adoption decree and serve as intermediaries in all processes to
which we commit ourselves. No we are not the least expensive "agency", but we
are certainly the best. Doesn't you fondest dream deserve the best provider of
the services you seek?


(I) ADOPTION PROGRAM SERVICE FEE: $14,000.00 (Public Adoption)
(II) ADOPTION NEWBORN PROGRAM FEE: $30,000.00 (Private Adoption)


Application Fee: $500.00 (I) & (II)

Adoption Study Fee: $500.00 (I) $1,000.00 (II)

Processing/Acquisition Fee: $6,000.00 (I), $12,000.00 (II)

Child Placement Fee: $7,000.00

Hourly Rate: $225.00, plus expenses 5 (not applicable to adoption service
fess above).


There may be additional fees involved. See below.


Additional Adoption Program Costs: In addition to the above service fees,
adoption of some children from Mexico involves other costs, such as payment of
living/pre-natal care costs in the case of newborn situations (see below). Also
while we will assist with making travel and hotel arrangements, we do not cover
payment of travel costs or fees to attend required court hearings, and / or to
go retrieve or arrange for the travel of the child to your locale.




Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in message
news:20041205103739.21734.00001477@mb-m14.aol.com...
| >
| >We had a resignation on the assignment of a newborn late last night
| >December 4th, 2004. The child is available for immediate assignment
| >to a qualified couple. The children can be seen at
| >www.naftaexecutives.com, in the "New Born" page. Fees are listed in
| >the "Downloads" page. Please review our site and forward us your
| >questions.
| >
| >Thnak you,
| >
| >Samuel Chavez
| >Director, Executive Associates
| >
| >www.naftaexecutives.com
| >
| >Assignment is to be made on December 18th, 2004
|
| From the referenced web site:
|
| http://www.naftaexecutives.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/profess
| ional_fees1.doc
|
| [Per capita income, Mexico 2001: US $5,540.00. J.]
|
| ADOPTION EXPENSES
|
| Caveat: Please remember that we are not "facilitators"! We are all
| professionals with legal training serving in various capacities to make
this
| program function. We advertise for and sponsor pregnant women who have
| unwanted pregnancies and thus we manage all facets of the process from
child
| acquisition to adoption decree and serve as intermediaries in all
processes to
| which we commit ourselves. No we are not the least expensive "agency",
but we
| are certainly the best. Doesn't you fondest dream deserve the best
provider of
| the services you seek?
|
|
| (I) ADOPTION PROGRAM SERVICE FEE: $14,000.00 (Public Adoption)
| (II) ADOPTION NEWBORN PROGRAM FEE: $30,000.00 (Private Adoption)
|
|
| Application Fee: $500.00 (I) & (II)
|
| Adoption Study Fee: $500.00 (I) $1,000.00 (II)
|
| Processing/Acquisition Fee: $6,000.00 (I), $12,000.00 (II)
|
| Child Placement Fee: $7,000.00
|
| Hourly Rate: $225.00, plus expenses 5 (not applicable to adoption service
| fess above).
|
|
| There may be additional fees involved. See below.
|
|
| Additional Adoption Program Costs: In addition to the above service fees,
| adoption of some children from Mexico involves other costs, such as
payment of
| living/pre-natal care costs in the case of newborn situations (see below).
Also
| while we will assist with making travel and hotel arrangements, we do not
cover
| payment of travel costs or fees to attend required court hearings, and /
or to
| go retrieve or arrange for the travel of the child to your locale.
|
|
|
|
| Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
|
I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childs
parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above it
sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarify
for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probably
pay? We went through an adoption agency.
--
BaD *** Me

"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..

I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childs parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above
it sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarify for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents
probably pay?


Well there's a first. A bmother referring to the adoptive parents of her
child as "my aparents".

Kathy 1

"kat" <katlat24seeifthishelps@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:31haetF3blth2U1@individual.net...
|
| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| news:0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
|
|
| > I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childs
| > parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above
| it
| > sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can
clarify
| > for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents
| probably
| > pay?
|
|
| Well there's a first. A bmother referring to the adoptive parents of her
| child as "my aparents".
|
| Kathy 1
|
|
I didnt mean to be offensive. I certainly dont say 'my adotpive parents' to
be disrespectful to them. I know that they refer to me and the other bmom
as 'their bmoms' sometimes. I dont take it to be mean or disrespectful. It
is simply said that way to indicate the bmoms involved in their family.
When I say my aparents it is because I am the one who chose them and I feel
very close to them as people. It indicates that they are the aparents in my
family. Again, I really didnt mean it in a bad way and I apologize if
anyone took it badly.
--
BaD *** Me

In article <0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
BaD *** Me <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote:
|I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childsparents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above itsounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarifyfor me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probablypay? We went through an adoption agency.--BaD *** Me

Bad ***, these people are pond scum. They are advertising a child for
sale on the internet. Hanging is too good for them. If adoption is not
in the best interest of the child, no decent potential a-parent should
have anything to do with them. I say this not only for the inherent
immorality of advertising a baby, but also because the potential a pars
are likely to have their hearts broken and loose a lot of money if they
deal with this gang of crooks.

J. thanks for taking the time and trouble to post their little schedule
of extra fees.


If you are curious about adoption costs, start with the adoption page on
www.about.com. The information there is generally reliable. If you are
interested in costs of one international program, try the Families With
Children from China website www.fwcc.org

We chose to adopt from China for many reasons, prime being the many little
girls there who desperately needed parents. But, another reason is the
fact that China is a well regulated (as only a totalitarian government
with a 5000 year bureaucratic tradition) can regulate it. Yeah, you pay
some bribes in China, but they are controlled bribes. And, our adoption
agency figured out a clever ruse that I can't publicize that meant we
didn't pay any bribes.

Linda

>Subject: New Born Assigment Avaialable: Mexico-Guadalajara JaliscoFrom: samuelcv@naftaexecutives.com (Samuel)Date: 12/5/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard TimeMessage-id: <dc1d3dee.0412050546.26aa296e@posting.google.com>We had a resignation on the assignment of a newborn late last nightDecember 4th, 2004. The child is available for immediate assignmentto a qualified couple. The children can be seen atwww.naftaexecutives.com, in the "New Born" page. Fees are listed inthe "Downloads" page. Please review our site and forward us yourquestions.Thnak you,Samuel ChavezDirector, Executive Associateswww.naftaexecutives.comAssignment is to be made on December 18th, 2004

Why not post this crap over on Ebay?




Kathy

>Subject: Re: New Born Assigment Avaialable: Mexico-Guadalajara JaliscoFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.netDate: 12/5/2004 7:45 AM Pacific Standard TimeMessage-id: <0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net>
And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probablypay?

Lol, what a greenie....*my aparents* Do you mind if they call you my bm?

I bet you don't


Kathy

>Subject: Re: New Born Assigment Avaialable: Mexico-Guadalajara JaliscoFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.netDate: 12/5/2004 1:22 PM Pacific Standard TimeMessage-id: <JZKsd.104494$IQ.39850@bignews6.bellsouth.net>

(snip)
I didnt mean to be offensive. I certainly dont say 'my adotpive parents' tobe disrespectful to them. I know that they refer to me and the other bmomas 'their bmoms' sometimes. I dont take it to be mean or disrespectful

Eeeek!


Kathy

>In article <0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,BaD *** Me <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote:|I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childsparents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above itsounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarifyfor me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probablypay? We went through an adoption agency.--BaD *** MeBad ***, these people are pond scum. They are advertising a child forsale on the internet. Hanging is too good for them. If adoption is notin the best interest of the child, no decent potential a-parent shouldhave anything to do with them. I say this not only for the inherentimmorality of advertising a baby, but also because the potential a parsare likely to have their hearts broken and loose a lot of money if theydeal with this gang of crooks.J. thanks for taking the time and trouble to post their little scheduleof extra fees.

No trouble at all. I was intrigued by the name of the organization. It sounds
like a head-hunting firm that decided to branch out. When I read their claim
that they weren't facilitators, I LdOL. They imply that they are an agency,
but I didn't see anything confirming that. They sound to me like just another
sub-species, facilitators with law licenses.

J.


If you are curious about adoption costs, start with the adoption page onwww.about.com. The information there is generally reliable. If you areinterested in costs of one international program, try the Families WithChildren from China website www.fwcc.orgWe chose to adopt from China for many reasons, prime being the many littlegirls there who desperately needed parents. But, another reason is thefact that China is a well regulated (as only a totalitarian governmentwith a 5000 year bureaucratic tradition) can regulate it. Yeah, you paysome bribes in China, but they are controlled bribes. And, our adoptionagency figured out a clever ruse that I can't publicize that meant wedidn't pay any bribes.Linda




Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<JZKsd.104494$IQ.39850@bignews6.bellsouth.net>... "kat" <katlat24seeifthishelps@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:31haetF3blth2U1@individual.net... | | "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message | news:0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net. .. | | | > I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childs | > parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above it | > sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarify | > for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probably | > pay? | | | Well there's a first. A bmother referring to the adoptive parents of her | child as "my aparents". | | Kathy 1 | | I didnt mean to be offensive. I certainly dont say 'my adotpive parents' to be disrespectful to them. I know that they refer to me and the other bmom as 'their bmoms' sometimes. I dont take it to be mean or disrespectful. It is simply said that way to indicate the bmoms involved in their family. When I say my aparents it is because I am the one who chose them and I feel very close to them as people. It indicates that they are the aparents in my family. Again, I really didnt mean it in a bad way and I apologize if anyone took it badly.

Don't worry, we've had extremely lengthy battles about terminology in
this ng. One particularly ferocious one centered on Post Traumatic
Stress Disorder...

From what I've seen on this ng, your kid's a-parents may have paid
anything from $0 to about $20K. You could ask the agency, I guess. Or
the couple in question.

Rupa

meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy ) wrote in message news:<20041205175351.06022.00001118@mb-m21.aol.com>...Subject: Re: New Born Assigment Avaialable: Mexico-Guadalajara JaliscoFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.netDate: 12/5/2004 7:45 AM Pacific Standard TimeMessage-id: <0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net> And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents probablypay? Lol, what a greenie....*my aparents* Do you mind if they call you my bm? I bet you don't

Just as a question, if she doesn't mind, is it important that she be
made to mind? My own bias would be toward some tolerance here.

Rupa

"kat" <katlat24seeifthishelps@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:31haetF3blth2U1@individual.net...
|
| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| news:0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
|
|
| > I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my childs
| > parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the above
| it
| > sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can
clarify
| > for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents
| probably
| > pay?
|
|
| Well there's a first. A bmother referring to the adoptive parents of her
| child as "my aparents".
|
| Kathy 1
|
|
I thought I replied to this but now I dont see the post. Maybe I accidently
deleted it. If so, sorry for answering twice. My daughters parents refer
to me and the other bmom as their birthmoms or the birthmoms or our first
names. By calling them my adoptive parents I simply mean that they are the
adoptive parents in my circle. Its not meant to be disrespectful or mean
and they dont take it that way. Its like saying my husband, my sister, my
aunt..none of those people belong to me and all of them are related to
others in other ways. It would probably be more accurate to say my childs
adoptive parents but when I relate them to her I dont use the term adopted.
They are just her parents. Anyway, if I already answered I hope that answer
made more sence than this one does right now. :-)
--
BaD *** Me

"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:LmEtd.44521$Dm2.2676@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. . "kat" <katlat24seeifthishelps@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:31haetF3blth2U1@individual.net... | | "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote in message | news:0%Fsd.40190$Ch2.18800@bignews5.bellsouth.net. .. | | | > I dont know anything about it and I really dont even know what my
childs | > parents came out of pocket with in adopting her but in reading the
above | it | > sounds alot like just buying a baby. Is there an aparent who can clarify | > for me? And im just curious, what kind of expences did my aparents | probably | > pay? | | | Well there's a first. A bmother referring to the adoptive parents of
her | child as "my aparents". | | Kathy 1 | | I thought I replied to this but now I dont see the post. Maybe I
accidently deleted it. If so, sorry for answering twice. My daughters parents refer to me and the other bmom as their birthmoms or the birthmoms or our first names. By calling them my adoptive parents I simply mean that they are
the adoptive parents in my circle. Its not meant to be disrespectful or mean and they dont take it that way.

I didn't think you meant it in a mean way. I was just commenting on it
since many here take issue with aparents calling the bmother of their child
"their borthmother".

Its like saying my husband, my sister, my aunt..none of those people belong to me and all of them are related to others in other ways.

Ah no it isn't. Your husband *is* your husband, your aunt *is* your aunt,
etc. Unless you were also adopted by the aparents of your child they aren't
*your* aparents.
That being said, of course you can call them whatever you want. :)

Kathy 1