>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <QrSpd.45992$jE2.6045@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
Adoption is not just about the bmom butit sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.

Then you should have had an abortion.


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"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <QrSpd.45992$jE2.6045@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
|
| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
|
| Then you should have had an abortion.
|

Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
different needs and concerns? That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
(generally) more than one person..should perspective parents abort too in
order to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife but
even if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer to
every pregnancy that involved more than one person.
--
BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**



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| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
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>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <XDTpd.65639$IQ.11937@bignews6.bellsouth.net>"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:20041126223250.06555.00000784@mb-m24.aol.com...| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time| >Message-id: <QrSpd.45992$jE2.6045@bignews4.bellsouth.net>|| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.|| Then you should have had an abortion.|Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals withdifferent needs and concerns?

IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
That seems silly to me. Parenting involves(generally) more than one person..

And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal to the
needs of the child they create.
.should perspective parents abort too inorder to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife buteven if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer toevery pregnancy that involved more than one person.

Well, you've already stated that you feel like the fathers' needs are
irrelevant. So exactly what "other" people are involved?

--BaD *** Me**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**




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"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <XDTpd.65639$IQ.11937@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
| >
| >
| >"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
| >news:20041126223250.06555.00000784@mb-m24.aol.com...
| >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >| >Message-id: <QrSpd.45992$jE2.6045@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
| >|
| >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
| >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
| >|
| >| Then you should have had an abortion.
| >|
| >
| >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
| >different needs and concerns?
|
| IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
|
So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother chooses
adoption????


| >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
| >(generally) more than one person..
|
| And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal to
the
| needs of the child they create.
|
A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pure
amusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.

| >.should perspective parents abort too in
| >order to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife
but
| >even if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer
to
| >every pregnancy that involved more than one person.
|
| Well, you've already stated that you feel like the fathers' needs are
| irrelevant. So exactly what "other" people are involved?
|
|
Hey, I have said that dads should be forced to be dads if they wont do it.
It is sad that there are so many men willing to step back and let the
responsibiliies fall to the mother.


| >--
| >BaD *** Me
| >**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**
|
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| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
| -----Unknown

>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 11:49 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <zqVpd.65731$IQ.622@bignews6.bellsouth.net>"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:20041127013510.06298.00001074@mb-m18.aol.com...| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com| >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time


Top posting:

No offense, but is there any way you can clean up the annoying crap in your
posts? It's really hard to read. I know it might be your newsreader, but I'm
with Patty. It's a pain in the *** to read/respond to. My response follows:

| >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but| >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.| >|

| >| Then you should have had an abortion.| >|| >

| >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with| >different needs and concerns?

|| IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.

|So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother choosesadoption????

That's kind of stupid, isn't it? If a mother doesn't feel like she can parent,
then the best interest isn't adoption? Please.
| >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves| >(generally) more than one person..

|| And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal tothe| needs of the child they create.

|A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pureamusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.

I would hope so. But really, honestly, from your posts, as an adoptee, it
seems like you feel some need to lord it over your relative who had an
abortion, when given your opinion on the future needs of the child you created,
it might have been kinder if you had done the same.

I'm not trying to be a *****, I'm trying to understand where exactly it is
you're coming from.

And most of all, I need to ask you this:

If you are so at peace with your decision, why are you seeking
newsgroups/message boards that are kind to birthmothers? Why should you care?

Why try to seek validation for your choice?

I'm not saying you shouldn't post, or don't have the right to post, but
really...REALLY...why aren't you OVER it?




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"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/26/2004 11:49 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <zqVpd.65731$IQ.622@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
| >
| >
| >"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
| >news:20041127013510.06298.00001074@mb-m18.aol.com...
| >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >| >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time
|
|
| Top posting:
|
| No offense, but is there any way you can clean up the annoying crap in
your
| posts? It's really hard to read. I know it might be your newsreader, but
I'm
| with Patty. It's a pain in the *** to read/respond to. My response
follows:
|
|
| >| >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
| >| >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
| >| >|
|
|
| >| >| Then you should have had an abortion.
| >| >|
| >| >
|
|
| >| >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
| >| >different needs and concerns?
|
|
| >|
| >| IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
|
|
| >|
| >So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother
chooses
| >adoption????
|
| That's kind of stupid, isn't it? If a mother doesn't feel like she can
parent,
| then the best interest isn't adoption? Please.
|
How do you know she didnt choose adoption out of fear of not being a good
parent or from pressure from parents. Maybe the said adopt out or go
homeless and she unaware of other alternatives in regards to her housing
situation. Mothers do sometimes choose adoption (and may or may not follow
through) for other reasons than the benefit of the baby.


| >| >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
| >| >(generally) more than one person..
|
|
| >|
| >| And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal
to
| >the
| >| needs of the child they create.
|
|
| >|
| >A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pure
| >amusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.
|
| I would hope so. But really, honestly, from your posts, as an adoptee, it
| seems like you feel some need to lord it over your relative who had an
| abortion, when given your opinion on the future needs of the child you
created,
| it might have been kinder if you had done the same.
|
Oh no. I surely do not mean to sound that way about my sis. She did what
she thought best and only did what she did with the best intentions. I may
think she did the wrong thing or not like what she did but that doestn mean
I dont like her or think she is wrong.


| I'm not trying to be a *****, I'm trying to understand where exactly it is
| you're coming from.
|
| And most of all, I need to ask you this:
|
| If you are so at peace with your decision, why are you seeking
| newsgroups/message boards that are kind to birthmothers? Why should you
care?
|
Hell, I dont care if your kind or not.. I really dont loose sleep over it.
I came to the group because I like to talk about adoption.. private,
attorney handled, agency, within the family, out of country...There are so
many different stories and different experiences. Being proadoption I like
to talk about it. If I were worried about niceness I be gone already.

| Why try to seek validation for your choice?
|
| I'm not saying you shouldn't post, or don't have the right to post, but
| really...REALLY...why aren't you OVER it?
|
|
There was nothing to get over. Damn I didnt have the flu, I had a child. Of
course she is still a part of my life. I didnt erase her when I signed the
papers. Why do adult adoptees talk about their situation? Why do adoptive
parents talk? I just went through and put in differnt topics that
interested me and adoption was one.
--
BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**




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| >
|
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| -------------------------
| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
| -----Unknown