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LilMtnCbn
11-26-2004, 06:06 PM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
You must really hate birthmothers tonot even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth or underwhat circumstances.

Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back to
"hating birthmothers".


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

BaD aSs Me
11-26-2004, 07:12 PM
"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
| >
| >
| >"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
| >news:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
|
| >You must really hate birthmothers to
| >not even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth or
under
| >what circumstances.
| >
|
| Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back to
| "hating birthmothers".
|
|
Me? I dont hate birthmoms. I think they should have the right to continue
their pregnancy and give birth in a manner that they choose. If they choose
to make their preg. public knowledge but not their decision to adopt then
they shold be allowed to. If they want to keep it all quiet from friends or
family then why not? If they want to place an ad in the newspaper
announcing their situation and decision then let them. There is no harm in
allowing the birthparents the right to handle their pregnancy and adoption
decision in a manner that they are comfortable with.
--
BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**



| -------------------------
| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
| -----Unknown

LilMtnCbn
11-26-2004, 07:29 PM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 8:12 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <RrSpd.45993$jE2.5697@bignews4.bellsouth.net>"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:20041126210629.06685.00000581@mb-m24.aol.com...| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com| >Date: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard Time| >Message-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>| >| >| >"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message| >news:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...|| >You must really hate birthmothers to| >not even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth orunder| >what circumstances.| >|| Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back to| "hating birthmothers".||Me? I dont hate birthmoms.

No, I wondered exactly when you'd ask/accuse/whatever another poster of "hating
birthmothers". Since you brought it up in your very first post, it seems that
this is a concern for you. That's all.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

BaD aSs Me
11-26-2004, 08:16 PM
"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:12 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <RrSpd.45993$jE2.5697@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
| >
| >
| >"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
| >news:20041126210629.06685.00000581@mb-m24.aol.com...
| >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >| >Date: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >| >Message-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
| >| >news:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| >|
| >| >You must really hate birthmothers to
| >| >not even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth or
| >under
| >| >what circumstances.
| >| >
| >|
| >| Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back
to
| >| "hating birthmothers".
| >|
| >|
| >Me? I dont hate birthmoms.
|
| No, I wondered exactly when you'd ask/accuse/whatever another poster of
"hating
| birthmothers". Since you brought it up in your very first post, it seems
that
| this is a concern for you. That's all.
|
|
OIC...no I was just saying that a bparent has the right to hide their preg.
or adoption decisoin or both if they choose too. For example a woman may
feel pressure from her co-workers or family or whoever to parent but she
strongly wants the adoption. Maybe the pressure is toomuch or too stressful
so she hides her decision. SOmeone else replied that the bparents didnt
have that right. It seemed hateful towards the bparent to force them to
announce their preg. and decision to the world after all we dont do that
with those who abort.
My initial question about being welcome was only out of respect. I wasnt
sure if this was a place for adoptees and their concerns or adoptive parents
etc.. I didnt want to but into something that wasnt for me.
--
BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**




| -------------------------
| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
| -----Unknown

Robibnikoff
11-27-2004, 05:12 AM
"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041126210629.06685.00000581@mb-m24.aol.com...Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...You must really hate birthmothers tonot even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth or underwhat circumstances. Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back to "hating birthmothers".

Who hates birthmothers?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

Robibnikoff
11-27-2004, 05:18 AM
"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:WDTpd.65638$IQ.7719@bignews6.bellsouth.net... "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041126222906.06555.00000783@mb-m24.aol.com... | >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill | >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com | >Date: 11/26/2004 8:12 PM Mountain Standard Time | >Message-id: <RrSpd.45993$jE2.5697@bignews4.bellsouth.net> | > | > | >"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message | >news:20041126210629.06685.00000581@mb-m24.aol.com... | >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill | >| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com | >| >Date: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard Time | >| >Message-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net> | >| > | >| > | >| >"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message | >| >news:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... | >| | >| >You must really hate birthmothers to | >| >not even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth or | >under | >| >what circumstances. | >| > | >| | >| Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come back to | >| "hating birthmothers". | >| | >| | >Me? I dont hate birthmoms. | | No, I wondered exactly when you'd ask/accuse/whatever another poster of "hating | birthmothers". Since you brought it up in your very first post, it seems that | this is a concern for you. That's all. | | OIC...no I was just saying that a bparent has the right to hide their preg. or adoption decisoin or both if they choose too. For example a woman may feel pressure from her co-workers or family or whoever to parent but she strongly wants the adoption. Maybe the pressure is toomuch or too stressful so she hides her decision. SOmeone else replied that the bparents didnt have that right. It seemed hateful towards the bparent to force them to announce their preg. and decision to the world after all we dont do that with those who abort.

I don't think anyone has a problem with how a birthparents sets up their
adoption plan and if they want to keep it a secret, etc. However, shoving
away an adoptee looking for information later is what pisses people off.
Granted you've supplied your daughter's adoptive family with a great deal of
information, pictures, medical info, etc., which I believe you update
regularly, but not all of us were so lucky. ****, I didn't find out that I
was German, Scottish and Irish until I was 40!!! I didn't have ANY medical
information until that age either. And I didn't search for my birthfamily
for myself - I did it for my daughter. I was used to not knowing my
heritage - that can be part of being a adoptee. However, my daughter's not
adopted and I felt she had a right to know what I didn't.
My initial question about being welcome was only out of respect. I wasnt sure if this was a place for adoptees and their concerns or adoptive parents etc.. I didnt want to but into something that wasnt for me.

Hate to break it to you, but you're not automatically entitled to respect
JUST because you're a birthmother. Why would you think that would make you
more deserving than say an adoptee or a aparent?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

kat
11-27-2004, 08:15 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:30rd4qF34463dU1@uni-berlin.de... "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message


| OIC...no I was just saying that a bparent has the right to hide their preg. or adoption decisoin or both if they choose too. For example a woman
may feel pressure from her co-workers or family or whoever to parent but she strongly wants the adoption. Maybe the pressure is toomuch or too stressful so she hides her decision. SOmeone else replied that the bparents didnt have that right. It seemed hateful towards the bparent to force them to announce their preg. and decision to the world after all we dont do that with those who abort. I don't think anyone has a problem with how a birthparents sets up their adoption plan and if they want to keep it a secret, etc. However, shoving away an adoptee looking for information later is what pisses people off.


Exactly!

Kathy 1

BaD aSs Me
11-27-2004, 09:28 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:30rd4qF34463dU1@uni-berlin.de...
|
| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
| news:WDTpd.65638$IQ.7719@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| >
| > "LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
| > news:20041126222906.06555.00000783@mb-m24.aol.com...
| > | >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| > | >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| > | >Date: 11/26/2004 8:12 PM Mountain Standard Time
| > | >Message-id: <RrSpd.45993$jE2.5697@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
| > | >news:20041126210629.06685.00000581@mb-m24.aol.com...
| > | >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| > | >| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| > | >| >Date: 11/26/2004 3:58 PM Mountain Standard Time
| > | >| >Message-id: <hLOpd.117236$Tq1.54924@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
| > | >| >
| > | >| >
| > | >| >"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
| > | >| >news:U_Npd.62285$7i4.45660@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > | >|
| > | >| >You must really hate birthmothers to
| > | >| >not even be willing to let them choose where they will give birth
or
| > | >under
| > | >| >what circumstances.
| > | >| >
| > | >|
| > | >| Oh dear. What's it been---2 days? 3? I wondered when you'd come
| > back
| > to
| > | >| "hating birthmothers".
| > | >|
| > | >|
| > | >Me? I dont hate birthmoms.
| > |
| > | No, I wondered exactly when you'd ask/accuse/whatever another poster
of
| > "hating
| > | birthmothers". Since you brought it up in your very first post, it
| > seems
| > that
| > | this is a concern for you. That's all.
| > |
| > |
| > OIC...no I was just saying that a bparent has the right to hide their
| > preg.
| > or adoption decisoin or both if they choose too. For example a woman
may
| > feel pressure from her co-workers or family or whoever to parent but she
| > strongly wants the adoption. Maybe the pressure is toomuch or too
| > stressful
| > so she hides her decision. SOmeone else replied that the bparents didnt
| > have that right. It seemed hateful towards the bparent to force them to
| > announce their preg. and decision to the world after all we dont do that
| > with those who abort.
|
| I don't think anyone has a problem with how a birthparents sets up their
| adoption plan and if they want to keep it a secret, etc. However, shoving
| away an adoptee looking for information later is what pisses people off.
| Granted you've supplied your daughter's adoptive family with a great deal
of
| information, pictures, medical info, etc., which I believe you update
| regularly, but not all of us were so lucky. ****, I didn't find out that
I
| was German, Scottish and Irish until I was 40!!! I didn't have ANY
medical
| information until that age either. And I didn't search for my birthfamily
| for myself - I did it for my daughter. I was used to not knowing my
| heritage - that can be part of being a adoptee. However, my daughter's
not
| adopted and I felt she had a right to know what I didn't.
|
| > My initial question about being welcome was only out of respect. I
wasnt
| > sure if this was a place for adoptees and their concerns or adoptive
| > parents
| > etc.. I didnt want to but into something that wasnt for me.
|
| Hate to break it to you, but you're not automatically entitled to respect
| JUST because you're a birthmother. Why would you think that would make
you
| more deserving than say an adoptee or a aparent?
| --
| ---------
| Robyn
| Resident Witchypoo
| #1557
|
Can you read? Where did I say out of respect for me? How is asking
respectful to myself? I was trying to be respectful and not butt into a
group that may have nothing to do with bparents at all. IMO it would have
been quite rude to jump into a discussion that was specifially geared
towards the needs, concerns or issues of people seeking to adopt or those
who have adopted special needs children etc.. I was being respectful of
others and making sure my input was not out of line.
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BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**

Robibnikoff
11-27-2004, 10:03 AM
"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:433qd.65883$IQ.31665@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .

snip Can you read?

Yeah, my BA in English Lit kinda implies that.
Where did I say out of respect for me?

Maybe I took it the wrong way. Chill the hell out.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

BaD aSs Me
11-27-2004, 10:31 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:30rtr5F33k6aeU1@uni-berlin.de...
|
| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
| news:433qd.65883$IQ.31665@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
|
| snip
| > Can you read?
|
| Yeah, my BA in English Lit kinda implies that.
|
| >Where did I say out of respect for me?
|
| Maybe I took it the wrong way. Chill the hell out.
| --
| ---------
| Robyn
| Resident Witchypoo
| #1557
|
Ok...chilling out.
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BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**

Jackie
11-27-2004, 05:41 PM
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"
<badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:

BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..
They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to
'trip you up'.

When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com

I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all
the members of the triangle in reunion..

Others have tried here and they have given up..

I do enjoy your posts tho.

Jackie

LilMtnCbn
11-27-2004, 07:19 PM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: Jackie somewhere@aolDate: 11/27/2004 6:41 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to'trip you up'.When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.comI know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting allthe members of the triangle in reunion..Others have tried here and they have given up..I do enjoy your posts tho.Jackie

Bwwaaa. Are you going try to convince her that the Amerikan adoption industry
stole her kid like they did yours?


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

Robibnikoff
11-27-2004, 07:35 PM
"Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message
news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote: BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad.. They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to 'trip you up'. When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all the members of the triangle in reunion.. Others have tried here and they have given up..

Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long. I do enjoy your posts tho.

Have fun with your bmom pity pary.

Robibnikoff
11-27-2004, 07:37 PM
"Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message
news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote: BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad.. They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to 'trip you up'. When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all the members of the triangle in reunion.. Others have tried here and they have given up.. I do enjoy your posts thou

Cheese N' rice. I should have known it wouldn't take you long to show up.
Have fun have a bmom pity party.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557> Jackie

Robin Harritt
11-28-2004, 12:07 AM
Jackie wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to'trip you up'.When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.comI know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting allthe members of the triangle in reunion..Others have tried here and they have given up..I do enjoy your posts tho.Jackie


And where you've been told to put a sock in it at least once.


Robin

Kathy
11-28-2004, 10:31 AM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: Jackie somewhere@aolDate: 11/27/2004 5:41 PM Pacific Standard TimeMessage-id: <01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to'trip you up'.When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.comI know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting allthe members of the triangle in reunion..Others have tried here and they have given up..I do enjoy your posts tho.Jackie

O-boo-hoo ..........get over your bad bmommy-self.


Kathy

BaD aSs Me
11-28-2004, 11:14 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de...
|
| "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message
| news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"
| > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:
| >
| > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..
| > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to
| > 'trip you up'.
| >
| > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com
| >
| > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all
| > the members of the triangle in reunion..
| >
| > Others have tried here and they have given up..
|
| Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long.
| >
| > I do enjoy your posts tho.
|
| Have fun with your bmom pity pary.
|
We get parties too????
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BaD *** Me
**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**

Robibnikoff
11-28-2004, 06:41 PM
"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. . "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de... | | "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message | news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... | > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me" | > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote: | > | > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad.. | > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to | > 'trip you up'. | > | > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com | > | > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all | > the members of the triangle in reunion.. | > | > Others have tried here and they have given up.. | | Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long. | > | > I do enjoy your posts tho. | | Have fun with your bmom pity pary. | We get parties too????

****, I think you even have your own holiday. Adoptees don't.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

KL
11-28-2004, 07:21 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:30vgitF32ke7pU1@uni-berlin.de... "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message news:uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. . "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de... | | "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message | news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... | > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me" | > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote: | > | > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad.. | > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to | > 'trip you up'. | > | > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com | > | > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all | > the members of the triangle in reunion.. | > | > Others have tried here and they have given up.. | | Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long. | > | > I do enjoy your posts tho. | | Have fun with your bmom pity pary. | We get parties too???? ****, I think you even have your own holiday. Adoptees don't. --

But you forget, it isn't about the adoptee.....it's about the bmom....

KL
--------- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557

Robibnikoff
11-28-2004, 07:46 PM
"KL" <klbjornme@aohell.com> wrote in message news:41aa9925@127.0.0.1... "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:30vgitF32ke7pU1@uni-berlin.de... "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote in message news:uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. . "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de... | | "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message | news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... | > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me" | > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote: | > | > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad.. | > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to | > 'trip you up'. | > | > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com | > | > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all | > the members of the triangle in reunion.. | > | > Others have tried here and they have given up.. | | Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long. | > | > I do enjoy your posts tho. | | Have fun with your bmom pity pary. | We get parties too???? ****, I think you even have your own holiday. Adoptees don't. -- But you forget, it isn't about the adoptee.....it's about the bmom....

<smacks forehead> What WAS I thinking?!?
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

LilMtnCbn
11-30-2004, 10:27 AM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/28/2004 12:14 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net>"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in messagenews:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de...|| "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message| news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... | > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"| > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:| >| > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..| > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to| > 'trip you up'.| >| > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com| >| > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all| > the members of the triangle in reunion..| >| > Others have tried here and they have given up..|| Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long.| >| > I do enjoy your posts tho.|| Have fun with your bmom pity pary.|We get parties too????--BaD *** Me

Only if you were coerced into relinquishing.


-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

Robin Harritt
11-30-2004, 10:56 AM
LilMtnCbn wrote:
Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.comDate: 11/28/2004 12:14 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net>"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in messagenews:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de...|| "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message| news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com... | > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"| > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:| >| > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..| > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to| > 'trip you up'.| >| > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com| >| > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all| > the members of the triangle in reunion..| >| > Others have tried here and they have given up..|| Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long.| >| > I do enjoy your posts tho.|| Have fun with your bmom pity pary.|We get parties too????--BaD *** MeOnly if you were coerced into relinquishing.


Jackie whose relinquishment was over 30 years ago, hadn't been coerced
when she first turned up on alt.adoption, she'd given her son up of her
own free will. But after much coaching from another member she eventualy
became retrospectively coerced. So don't worry that you weren't
coerced. That can be fixed.


Robin

BaD aSs Me
11-30-2004, 11:04 AM
"LilMtnCbn" <lilmtncbn@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041130132748.07572.00001534@mb-m01.aol.com...
| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >Date: 11/28/2004 12:14 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >Message-id: <uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
| >
| >
| >"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
| >news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de...
| >|
| >| "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message
| >| news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com...
| >| > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"
| >| > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:
| >| >
| >| > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..
| >| > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to
| >| > 'trip you up'.
| >| >
| >| > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com
| >| >
| >| > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all
| >| > the members of the triangle in reunion..
| >| >
| >| > Others have tried here and they have given up..
| >|
| >| Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long.
| >| >
| >| > I do enjoy your posts tho.
| >|
| >| Have fun with your bmom pity pary.
| >|
| >We get parties too????
| >--
| >BaD *** Me
|
| Only if you were coerced into relinquishing.
|
|
| -------------------------
| A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
will
| be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
| -----Unknown

Well damn it. And I had already pulled out my good party dress and heels,
found a sitter for the kids (the ones I wasnt tricked out of). I guess I
can forget about buying the party hat and horn now.
~~pouting~~ >;-(

--
BaD *** Me

BaD aSs Me
11-30-2004, 11:06 AM
"Robin Harritt" <ninguém@não.hoje.agradecimentos> wrote in message
news:313u2pF342fetU1@uni-berlin.de...
| LilMtnCbn wrote:
|
| >>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
| >>From: "BaD *** Me" badassme@bellsouth.com
| >>Date: 11/28/2004 12:14 PM Mountain Standard Time
| >>Message-id: <uOvqd.57295$jE2.5639@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
| >>
| >>
| >>"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
| >>news:30svcsF34j6nmU1@uni-berlin.de...
| >>|
| >>| "Jackie" <somewhere@aol> wrote in message
| >>| news:01biq0lmunoi77coaihlftptqro8oba1bk@4ax.com...
| >>| > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:28:28 -0500, "BaD *** Me"
| >>| > <badassme@bellsouth.com> wrote:
| >>| >
| >>| > BaD *** Me.. some of the people here are completly mad..
| >>| > They do not read what you say.. They read what you write in order to
| >>| > 'trip you up'.
| >>| >
| >>| > When or if you get sick of this.. Write me at Jackiejdajda@aol.com
| >>| >
| >>| > I know a place where one can discuss good things like respecting all
| >>| > the members of the triangle in reunion..
| >>| >
| >>| > Others have tried here and they have given up..
| >>|
| >>| Cheese N' rice. I knew it wouldn't take you long.
| >>| >
| >>| > I do enjoy your posts tho.
| >>|
| >>| Have fun with your bmom pity pary.
| >>|
| >>We get parties too????
| >>--
| >>BaD *** Me
| >>
| >>
| >
| >Only if you were coerced into relinquishing.
| >
| >
| >
|
|
| Jackie whose relinquishment was over 30 years ago, hadn't been coerced
| when she first turned up on alt.adoption, she'd given her son up of her
| own free will. But after much coaching from another member she eventualy
| became retrospectively coerced. So don't worry that you weren't
| coerced. That can be fixed.
|
|
| Robin
|

Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides?
I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated or
a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up for
adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered me
all that big money I supposedly made on the deal????
--
Some of my colleagues think that the chemicals we are experimenting with
could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits
of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?
BaD *** Me

Palms2pines
11-30-2004, 03:42 PM
>>We get parties too????--BaD *** MeOnly if you were coerced into relinquishing.


Or feel better about your decision if you claim you were.


P2P

Rupa Bose
11-30-2004, 09:22 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote ****, I think you even have your own holiday. Adoptees don't.

Hmm. I think you missed some of the virtual parties we used to
organize here on alt.a

We should declare a national adoptee day, and organize a party around
it. The a-moms will do the catering. We had some classic recipes here
at one time.

Rupa

Rupa Bose
12-01-2004, 08:40 AM
"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides? I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated or a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up for adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered me all that big money I supposedly made on the deal????

Actually, we have a bunch of b-moms who made thoughtful and careful
arrangements for their b-kids. For some reason, they seem to have a
lower profile than angry coerced b-moms.

Rupa

BaD aSs Me
12-01-2004, 09:17 AM
"Rupa Bose" <rkbose@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
news:e5619372.0412010840.1aede4af@posting.google.c om...
| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote
| >
| > Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two
sides?
| > I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated
or
| > a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up
for
| > adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered
me
| > all that big money I supposedly made on the deal????
|
| Actually, we have a bunch of b-moms who made thoughtful and careful
| arrangements for their b-kids. For some reason, they seem to have a
| lower profile than angry coerced b-moms.
|
| Rupa

OIC..I can understand that. It is a hard enough decision to come to terms
with but if talking about it and admitting that you dont pine away each day
worried to death about the welfare of your child or profess to have some
feelings of assurance that you did the right thing and you made the right
choices and someone comes along and distorts that to mean that you are
heartless or dont care then I might hve a tendency to shut up too.
--
BaD *** Me

J.
12-01-2004, 07:42 PM
>"Rupa Bose" <rkbose@pacific.net.sg> wrote in messagenews:e5619372.0412010840.1aede4af@posting.g oogle.com...| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote| >| > Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only twosides?| > I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreatedor| > a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her upfor| > adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offeredme| > all that big money I supposedly made on the deal????|| Actually, we have a bunch of b-moms who made thoughtful and careful| arrangements for their b-kids. For some reason, they seem to have a| lower profile than angry coerced b-moms.|| RupaOIC..I can understand that. It is a hard enough decision to come to termswith but if talking about it and admitting that you dont pine away each dayworried to death about the welfare of your child or profess to have somefeelings of assurance that you did the right thing and you made the rightchoices and someone comes along and distorts that to mean that you areheartless or dont care then I might hve a tendency to shut up too.--BaD *** Me

Somehow, I doubt that. ;-}

J.





Reply to jmhjmd at aol.

BaD aSs Me
12-01-2004, 08:00 PM
"J." <jmdjmh@aol.compostible> wrote in message
news:20041201224220.23417.00001453@mb-m03.aol.com...
| >
| >"Rupa Bose" <rkbose@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
| >news:e5619372.0412010840.1aede4af@posting.google.c om...
| >| "BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote
| >| >
| >| > Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two
| >sides?
| >| > I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise
mistreated
| >or
| >| > a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her
up
| >for
| >| > adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and
offered
| >me
| >| > all that big money I supposedly made on the deal????
| >|
| >| Actually, we have a bunch of b-moms who made thoughtful and careful
| >| arrangements for their b-kids. For some reason, they seem to have a
| >| lower profile than angry coerced b-moms.
| >|
| >| Rupa
| >
| >OIC..I can understand that. It is a hard enough decision to come to
terms
| >with but if talking about it and admitting that you dont pine away each
day
| >worried to death about the welfare of your child or profess to have some
| >feelings of assurance that you did the right thing and you made the right
| >choices and someone comes along and distorts that to mean that you are
| >heartless or dont care then I might hve a tendency to shut up too.
| >--
| >BaD *** Me
|
| Somehow, I doubt that. ;-}
|
| J.

Cant I even get by with faking being a 'good girl'??
--
BaD *** Me

Palms2pines
12-02-2004, 08:47 AM
>Cant I even get by with faking being a 'good girl'??--BaD *** Me


Sure. We all have to fake it from time to time.


P2P

BaD aSs Me
12-02-2004, 09:05 AM
"Palms2pines" <palms2pines@aol.comh8spam> wrote in message
news:20041202114745.00405.00001412@mb-m17.aol.com...
| >Cant I even get by with faking being a 'good girl'??
| >--
| >BaD *** Me
| >
|
|
| Sure. We all have to fake it from time to time.
|
|
| P2P

I've heard that people do...?!
Hey P2P..can I ask what your name means? Palms2pines. I think I might get
it but not sure.
--
Some of my colleagues think that the chemicals we are experimenting with
could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits
of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?
BaD *** Me

Palms2pines
12-02-2004, 12:54 PM
>Hey P2P..can I ask what your name means? Palms2pines. I think I might getit but not sure.


I live in the California desert. Hence, the "palms" part. We have a little
cabin in the mountains nearby, hence the "pines" part. I did not have Arkansas
pines in mind when I came up with the name. In fact, the name is not an
original. Quite a few local businesses located in close proximity to the desert
and the mountains are named "Palms to Pines".

Now, please explain *your* name, badassme!


P2P

BaD aSs Me
12-02-2004, 01:35 PM
"Palms2pines" <palms2pines@aol.comh8spam> wrote in message
news:20041202155431.21699.00001335@mb-m12.aol.com...
| >Hey P2P..can I ask what your name means? Palms2pines. I think I might
get
| >it but not sure.
|
|
| I live in the California desert. Hence, the "palms" part. We have a
little
| cabin in the mountains nearby, hence the "pines" part. I did not have
Arkansas
| pines in mind when I came up with the name. In fact, the name is not an
| original. Quite a few local businesses located in close proximity to the
desert
| and the mountains are named "Palms to Pines".
|
| Now, please explain *your* name, badassme!
|
|
| P2P

I kinda figured it might be something like that. Its cool. My name isnt
about being a bad *** or anything. I actually am a pretty shy, quiet
homebody IRL. It was just a way to put BDSM in my name (BaD *** Me). Its
not my main screen name or email address, obviously. Just thought id make
one up for posting and thought of that.
--
BaD *** Me

Rupa Bose
12-02-2004, 10:36 PM
"BaD *** Me" <badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote I kinda figured it might be something like that. Its cool. My name isnt about being a bad *** or anything. I actually am a pretty shy, quiet homebody IRL. It was just a way to put BDSM in my name (BaD *** Me). Its not my main screen name or email address, obviously. Just thought id make one up for posting and thought of that.

When I last encountered that acronym, it related to Bondage.

Is that the meaning you were trying for, or am I missing something?

Rupa

Jackie
12-04-2004, 04:04 PM
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:06:31 -0500, "BaD *** Me"
<badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides?I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated ora heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up foradoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered meall that big money I supposedly made on the deal????

Never believe anything that Robin says about me..

IMO certain adoptees want a tidy package. A very tidy package..
A package that gives them permission to do whatever they please..

Its the attack you see.. The one who verbally attacks sets the
agenda..

Jackie

AdoptaDad
12-04-2004, 08:36 PM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: Jackie somewhere@aolDate: 12/4/2004 7:04 P.M. Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3tj4r01i3l8vdcvn47p6sa1fnub6idjm6h@4ax.com>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:06:31 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote:Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides?I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated ora heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up foradoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered meall that big money I supposedly made on the deal????Never believe anything that Robin says about me..IMO certain adoptees want a tidy package. A very tidy package..

What's all this fuss about Robin's package?
A package that gives them permission to do whatever they please..

Whoa... that's quite the package!

Dad

Robin Harritt
12-04-2004, 11:41 PM
Jackie wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:06:31 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote: Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides? I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreatedor a heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up for adoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered me all that big money I supposedly made on the deal???? Never believe anything that Robin says about me..



Never believe anything Jackie says… It'll change in few months time anyway…


IMO certain adoptees want a tidy package.



I think Jackie forgets that I'm a birth relative six times and an
adoptee once…


A very tidy package..



I've got a perfectly adequate package already thanks…


A package that gives them permission to do whatever they please..



Oh please…

Its the attack you see..



What you're having another attack…? I thought you might be… Aren't there
any good psycho doctors in Canada?



The one who verbally attacks sets theagenda..




Yep and anyone who tells me that it's a good job my birth my mother died
before I found her, as you and Di both have, Jackie will set themself an
agenda for jolly good verbal kicking up the arse




I am sure what most of us would quite like NOT to find as part of the
"package" Jackie, is some guilt ridden drug addled old trollop from "the
sixties" with too few working brain cells left to understand what is
important and what isn't. Sorry looks like your son drew the short straw
on that one. Have you seen him yet this year?



Robin

Julia
12-04-2004, 11:45 PM
On 05 Dec 2004 04:36:54 GMT, adoptadad@aol.com (AdoptaDad) wrote:
Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: Jackie somewhere@aolDate: 12/4/2004 7:04 P.M. Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <3tj4r01i3l8vdcvn47p6sa1fnub6idjm6h@4ax.com>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:06:31 -0500, "BaD *** Me"<badassme@bellsouth.net> wrote:Whew, and I thought i'd have to miss all the fun. Are there only two sides?I mean do I have to either be coerced, tricked and otherwise mistreated ora heartless meanie who didnt want her baby and probably only gave her up foradoption because someone stopped me on the way to dumpster and offered meall that big money I supposedly made on the deal????Never believe anything that Robin says about me..IMO certain adoptees want a tidy package. A very tidy package.. What's all this fuss about Robin's package?

And why is it reserved for adoptees?
A package that gives them permission to do whatever they please.. Whoa... that's quite the package!

I hope Robin is particularly open-minded.

Julia
Dad

LilMtnCbn
12-05-2004, 05:34 AM
>Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption BillFrom: Robin Harritt ninguém@não.hoje.agradecimentosDate: 12/5/2004 12:41 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <31fsc0F3bhamhU1@individual.ne
I am sure what most of us would quite like NOT to find as part of the"package" Jackie, is some guilt ridden drug addled old trollop from "the
sixties" >with too few working brain cells left to understand what is important
and what >isn't. Sorry looks like your son drew the short straw on that one.
Have you seen him yet this year?

That's going to leave a mark. Ow!



-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

Qwasimodem
12-05-2004, 07:19 AM
On: 12/4/04 7:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
Jackie somewhere@aol wrote:

<snip>
certain adoptees

<snip>

Wow! I'ts been a long time since I've seen this phrase. Robin, you're "in".

<snip>
Its the attack you see..

<snip>

Something akin to this "attack" on Robin?
The one who verbally attacks sets the agenda..

And what agenda are you attempting to set here, Jackie?

Gary
PFC
BB

Jackie
12-05-2004, 06:06 PM
On 05 Dec 2004 15:19:04 GMT, qwasimodem@aol.com (Qwasimodem) wrote:
On: 12/4/04 7:04 PM Eastern Standard TimeJackie somewhere@aol wrote:<snip>certain adoptees<snip>Wow! I'ts been a long time since I've seen this phrase. Robin, you're "in".<snip>Its the attack you see..<snip>Something akin to this "attack" on Robin?The one who verbally attacks sets the agenda..And what agenda are you attempting to set here, Jackie?GaryPFCBB

This written by a man who has decided that the birthmother must tell
all of the truth all of the time.. and the birthfather can tell some
of the truth some of the time..

Jackie..

Qwasimodem
12-06-2004, 06:34 PM
On: 12/5/04 9:06 PM Eastern Standard Time
Jackie somewhere@aol wrote:
This written by a man who has decided that the birthmother must tellall of the truth all of the time.. and the birthfather can tell someof the truth some of the time..

As usual, you didn't answer either of my questions. No surprise here.

That said, I wonder...would you care to back up your accusation with
proof? You know, a post where I wrote that "the birthmother must tell all of
the truth..." and that a "...birthfather can tell some of the truth some of the
time.."? Hell, even a post where I come close to suggesting either of these
things will be enough.

No? You don't want to do that? No surprise here, either.

We both know that you can't find anything that backs up what you've
written here. I have no doubt you'll ignore this post or make another lame
attempt to make this about the sacred birthmother. That's ok.

Of course, if you do decide to answer this, you'll come off with some bull****
about how you don't have the time or that it's not your place to prove that
what you accuse someone of writing or thinking is true. That's ok, as well

As we both know, Jackie, sanctifying the birthmother is your true agenda. After
all...what better way to absolve yourself of any and all
responsibility for relinquishing your son, eh?

Gary
PFC
BB

Jackie
12-09-2004, 03:40 PM
On 07 Dec 2004 02:34:44 GMT, qwasimodem@aol.com (Qwasimodem) wrote:
That said, I wonder...would you care to back up your accusation withproof?


snip

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/39086b10b4006f82?dmode=source


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On:10/9/02 2:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Jackie C jda...@newsguy.com wrote:

<snip>
or..What if the adoptee was not told he or she was adopted? What if thebirth mother wants that secret 'outed'?
Should they (afamily) be made to tell the telling?

<snip>

While my daughter wasn't an "adoptee", she wasn't aware, (or so her
mother
thought), that her father wasn't her biofather. When I contacted her
mother, I
made it clear that if she didn't tell her, I would.


Gary




End of quoting..

So Gary.. Why is it okay for you to take two years to tell your
birthson about his half sister and not okay for the woman who had one
of your children? Why can't she take a couple of years?


Jackie

Qwasimodem
12-11-2004, 08:30 PM
On: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:40:46 -0500
Jackie <somewhere@aol> wrote:

<snip>
The Impact on Mothers - View Parsed

<snip>

I'm not at all sure how you think this proves your accusation. I do find it
hilarious that this was the best you could come up with, given all the time
you had. Was this the "...better things to do.." that you told Jennie about?
Geez, I hope not.

<snip>
Why can't she take a couple of years?

I don't recall saying she couldn't. Nowhere did I write that she had x
amount of time to tell her. Simply that, if she didn't, I would. But I must
say, it sounds suspiously like you believe the birthfather should tell the
truth only when he has permission from the (birth)mother. IOW, "...some
of the truth some of the time.. ". Not really a surprise what with your
agenda and all. Fact is, though, she took 24 years. Do you believe that
was long enough?

Now then, how long was it before you told your son that you don't know
who his birthfather is? I know it wasn't during your first, second, or even
third conversation.

Hypocrite.

Gary
PFC
BB

Jackie
12-12-2004, 04:45 PM
Gary.. You never change..

Around and around he goes where he stops no one knows.

Jackie



On 12 Dec 2004 04:30:52 GMT, qwasimodem@aol.com (Qwasimodem) wrote:
On: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:40:46 -0500Jackie <somewhere@aol> wrote:<snip>The Impact on Mothers - View Parsed<snip>I'm not at all sure how you think this proves your accusation. I do find ithilarious that this was the best you could come up with, given all the timeyou had. Was this the "...better things to do.." that you told Jennie about?Geez, I hope not.<snip>Why can't she take a couple of years?I don't recall saying she couldn't. Nowhere did I write that she had xamount of time to tell her. Simply that, if she didn't, I would. But I mustsay, it sounds suspiously like you believe the birthfather should tell thetruth only when he has permission from the (birth)mother. IOW, "...someof the truth some of the time.. ". Not really a surprise what with youragenda and all. Fact is, though, she took 24 years. Do you believe thatwas long enough?Now then, how long was it before you told your son that you don't knowwho his birthfather is? I know it wasn't during your first, second, or eventhird conversation.Hypocrite.GaryPFCBB

Qwasimodem
12-12-2004, 06:25 PM
On: 12/12/04 7:45 PM Eastern Standard Time
Jackie somewhere@aol wrote:
Gary.. You never change..

<snip>

You're absolutely right, Jackie. I haven't changed. I'm the same guy I was when
you first posted here. But you, OTOH...oh, my...how you have changed!
Around and around he goes where he stops no one knows.

ROFLMAO! That's it!? That's the best you can come up with? At the very
least call me a vile name or say something you think will be hurtful.

Of course, you could just ans.... nahhhh ....you can't. Well, that's not quite
accurate. You can, but you won't. And we both know why.

How dare you.

Gary
PFC
BB

Jackie
12-12-2004, 08:54 PM
On 13 Dec 2004 02:25:10 GMT, qwasimodem@aol.com (Qwasimodem) wrote:
On: 12/12/04 7:45 PM Eastern Standard TimeJackie somewhere@aol wrote:Gary.. You never change..<snip>You're absolutely right, Jackie. I haven't changed. I'm the same guy I was whenyou first posted here. But you, OTOH...oh, my...how you have changed!Around and around he goes where he stops no one knows.ROFLMAO! That's it!? That's the best you can come up with? At the veryleast call me a vile name or say something you think will be hurtful.

Sorry Gary that's not my style..

JackieOf course, you could just ans.... nahhhh ....you can't. Well, that's not quiteaccurate. You can, but you won't. And we both know why.How dare you.GaryPFCBB

Qwasimodem
12-13-2004, 06:50 AM
On: 12/12/04 11:54 PM Eastern Standard Time
Jackie somewhere@aol wrote:
On 13 Dec 2004 02:25:10 GMT, qwasimodem@aol.com(Qwasimodem) wrote:

<snip>
At the very least call me a vile name or say something you think will >>be
hurtful.Sorry Gary that's not my style..

Really? I guess you've changed since you posted the following:

Feb. 11, '04: "Or is he still glad that he lied to his bson?
You remember Gary the one who will not speak to you..."

Feb. 13, '04: "...What can I say other than you are a first class prick.."

Feb. 13, '04: "No wonder your bson can not stand you."

Not your style? Sure it is.

Gary
PFC
BB

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