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BabySafeHaven
10-27-2004, 03:36 AM
INDIANA
http://www.thejournalnet.com/Main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=113&Article
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Law lets parents leave newborn at safe place
By MICHELE HOLTKAMP-FRYE
Daily Journal staff writer
mholtkamp@thejournalnet.com

Oct. 27, 2004

Overwhelming fear can be a common feeling for parents of any age when they face
an unwanted pregnancy, child advocates say.

And although the circumstances surrounding Tiffany Norton’s pregnancy
remained unclear on Tuesday, she had options other than denying the birth and
abandoning the child.

Norton or the baby’s father could have left the baby at a hospital or fire
department minutes or days after the birth.

No questions asked.

Four years ago, Indiana lawmakers decided any infant younger than 45 days old
could be left anonymously in the care of firefighters or hospital employees
with no criminal consequences. The law — known as Baby Safe Haven — was
passed in response to a local and nationwide problem of infant abandonment.
Now, 45 states have enacted similar laws.

A case from Fort Wayne just last month proves that the law works, state Sen.
Jim Merritt said. Merritt supported the law and helped start an Indianapolis
organization, Reaching Parents in Crisis, which works to increase public
awareness of the law, educate parents about other options and loan cell phones
to at-risk expectant parents.

A mother left a 1-month-old boy in the care of Fort Wayne firefighters, who
turned the infant over to Child Protective Services. Later, the infant was
placed with foster parents, the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette reported. The mother
wasn’t required to leave her name or any information about the child.

Indiana law states that an emergency worker can take temporary custody of any
child voluntarily left at a fire department or hospital by the parent. Child
Protective Services is required to determine if the child had been reported
missing.

But parents can make plans to turn over the child months before giving birth or
even after labor has started.

A 24-hour hotline operated from a small Indiana town is gaining nationwide
attention from parents who don’t know what to do about an unwanted baby.

Newborn Lifeline Network volunteers encourage mothers to deliver in a hospital
and put them in contact with pregnancy centers, welfare workers or even
adoption attorneys via three-way calling, depending on the mother’s
situation. The caller remains anonymous but can learn specific locations close
to home or miles away where the baby can be left, said Kathy Satow, president
and co-founder of the organization based in Pekin.

The hotline started two years ago, and pregnant women ranging from age 12 to
40-something have been among the hundreds of callers. Some are victims of
incest. Some have had affairs.

An average of 100 women call each month, Satow said. Typically, the women are
between 19 and 22 years old and have a support system of family and friends but
are afraid to let their loved ones down by revealing the pregnancy, Satow said.

“If they’re not making any other choice, then Safe Haven,” Satow said.
“At least it’s a decision you can live with.”

Newborn Lifeline volunteers will even contact a hospital to notify them that a
mother will arrive in a few hours who wants to leave her baby so the hospital
is prepared and the mother’s worry is reduced.

At the end of the month, Newborn Lifeline Network will be able to help callers
who speak a language other than English. Volunteers will put a translator on
the line via a three-way call, Satow said, and 150 languages will be available.

Palms2pines
10-27-2004, 07:59 AM
>And although the circumstances surrounding Tiffany Norton’s pregnancyremained unclear on Tuesday, she had options other than denying the birth andabandoning the child.

Keen eye for the obvious. Women have always had options other than denying a
pregnancy, concealing a birth and abandoning a child in unsafe conditions.


P2P

Rupa Bose
10-27-2004, 11:52 AM
babysafehaven@aol.com (BabySafeHaven) wrote A 24-hour hotline operated from a small Indiana town is gaining nationwide attention from parents who don?t know what to do about an unwanted baby. Newborn Lifeline Network volunteers encourage mothers to deliver in a hospital and put them in contact with pregnancy centers, welfare workers or even adoption attorneys via three-way calling, depending on the mother?s situation. The caller remains anonymous but can learn specific locations close to home or miles away where the baby can be left, said Kathy Satow, president and co-founder of the organization based in Pekin.

This kind of outreach seems reasonable...start by trying to direct the
woman to resources that are available, encourage her to talk to her
family, and provide SH information as a last resort.

Rupa

Tm n Kat
10-27-2004, 09:39 PM
>Subject: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: babysafehaven@aol.com (BabySafeHaven)Date: 10/27/2004
A mother left a 1-month-old boy in the care of Fort Wayne firefighters, whoturned the infant over to Child Protective Services. Later, the infant wasplaced with foster parents, the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette reported.

Not exactly the dumpster M O
“If they’re not making any other choice, then Safe Haven,” Satow said.“At least it’s a decision you can live with.”

Time will tell. It ("at least it's a decision you can live with") is the same
talk that was given to the women in the 50's, 60', 70's... Maybe the
collective they think the lack of paper trail will be a better deterent to
their offspring in search, or do they even get them past the "afraid to let
their loved ones down by revealing the pregnancy" part? Kathy J

Rupa Bose
10-28-2004, 07:59 PM
tmnkat@aol.com (Tm n Kat) wrote in message news:<20041028013940.23542.00002496@mb-m18.aol.com>...Subject: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: babysafehaven@aol.com (BabySafeHaven)Date: 10/27/2004A mother left a 1-month-old boy in the care of Fort Wayne firefighters, whoturned the infant over to Child Protective Services. Later, the infant wasplaced with foster parents, the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette reported. Not exactly the dumpster M O“If they’re not making any other choice, then Safe Haven,” Satow said.“At least it’s a decision you can live with.” Time will tell. It ("at least it's a decision you can live with") is the same talk that was given to the women in the 50's, 60', 70's... Maybe the collective they think the lack of paper trail will be a better deterent to their offspring in search, or do they even get them past the "afraid to let their loved ones down by revealing the pregnancy" part? Kathy J

I guess the "you" in this case is the collective "you" - not just the
mother. I've gotta say that while I don't support (or oppose) SH, I'd
find SHs an easier decision to live with than unsafe abandonment.

Rupa

Tm n Kat
10-29-2004, 06:26 PM
>Subject: Re: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)Date: 10/28/2004
I've gotta say that while I don't support (or oppose) SH, I'dfind SHs an easier decision to live with than unsafe abandonment.Rupa

I would agree if I knew that the people who unsafely abandon would actually use
the SH's. I have not seen evidence of that in the interviews of offenders but
I have found reasoning of harm. One example:

http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/gov/Members/Jennifer/Folder.2003-05-06.3614/Memb
ers/Jennifer/Folder.2003-05-06.3614/Folder.2003-05-06.3642/safehaven

Kathy J

Rupa Bose
10-30-2004, 12:41 AM
tmnkat@aol.com (Tm n Kat) wrote

I have not seen evidence of that in the interviews of offenders but I have found reasoning of harm. One example: http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/gov/Members/Jennifer/Folder.2003-05-06.3614/Memb ers/Jennifer/Folder.2003-05-06.3614/Folder.2003-05-06.3642/safehaven Kathy J


Interesting article, and well expressed views.

But it doesn't really provide any supportive information: it asserts
harm, and strengthens it with one quote from Twyana.

I'd say the most telling it item is that in Texas, the SH law hasn't
saved >100 abandoned babies...

Rupa

Tm n Kat
10-30-2004, 06:37 PM
>Subject: Re: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)Date: 10/30/2004
But it doesn't really provide any supportive information: it assertsharm, and strengthens it with one quote from Twyana.
I'd say the most telling it item is that in Texas, the SH law hasn'tsaved >100 abandoned babies...Rupa

Those who have been "caught" are interviewed and I don't hear them saying they
would have used the SH had they been available or had they known of them.

There would be less harm if the advocates were truthful and advertised or
lobbied their Safe Havens as alternates to planning for adoption instead of
alternates to dumpsters.

Kathy J

Rupa Bose
10-31-2004, 12:04 PM
tmnkat@aol.com (Tm n Kat) wrote in message news:<20041030223737.12217.00002027@mb-m21.aol.com>...Subject: Re: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)Date: 10/30/2004But it doesn't really provide any supportive information: it assertsharm, and strengthens it with one quote from Twyana.I'd say the most telling it item is that in Texas, the SH law hasn'tsaved >100 abandoned babies...Rupa Those who have been "caught" are interviewed and I don't hear them saying they would have used the SH had they been available or had they known of them. There would be less harm if the advocates were truthful and advertised or lobbied their Safe Havens as alternates to planning for adoption instead of alternates to dumpsters. Kathy J


Do you have links to any cases besides Twyana? I'd be interested.

Rupa

Tm n Kat
11-03-2004, 08:07 PM
>Subject: Re: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)Date: 10/31/2004
Do you have links to any cases besides Twyana? I'd be interested.Rupa

Rupa.

I have not been able to find much. Not sure if they don't ask these "moms", if
they don't want to publicize the results because they are not the answers they
want to hear, or what.

Will e-mail you another case. Kathy J

Marley Greiner
11-05-2004, 04:40 PM
"Tm n Kat" <tmnkat@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041104000710.06675.00000031@mb-m15.aol.com...Subject: Re: IN - Law lets parents leave newborn at safe placeFrom: rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)Date: 10/31/2004Do you have links to any cases besides Twyana? I'd be interested.Rupa Rupa. I have not been able to find much. Not sure if they don't ask these "moms", if they don't want to publicize the results because they are not the answers they want to hear, or what. Will e-mail you another case. Kathy J

Very few people are willing to discuss what they've done. Debi Magnussen's
book if full of narratives. You can order it through
www.projectcuddle.org. You can also check out BN's bibliography on baby
abandonment at:
http://www.bastards.org/mediaroom/printAbandonmentReader.html

Erik Smith has written some good stuff on fathers rights and SH. You can
find one of them at
http://adoption.about.com/cs/adoptionrights/a/safehave_flaw.htm

Marley

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