My daughter is 11, I was never married to father, he moved from PA to NC when I found out I was pregnant. Since, I've been married for 8 years have 3 other children. He has since been living with someone for the past 9 years and has recently been engaged and had another baby. The girlfriend recently found out that he had been cheating on her, and they just recently broke up. He wants nothing to do with his other baby at this time.
I have begun talking to ex-girlfriend because she now calls me because she is concerned about my daughter, since she primarily took care of her when she was down there.
Right now we have a verbal child support agreement for $500.00/ month. I do not currently work, but will be working as a teacher soon. He also pays for her to fly down there to see him once a month. I really want to go through domestic relations and get what I deserve for my daughter. The problem is he obviously lies and cheats about his true income. On paper he makes $25,000/year, but he owns his own business and drives a Mercedes. I am not sure what to do, I could really use some advice. I know he has to be lying on his income tax. His ex has even confirmed that she knows he pockets alot of money without ever claiming it. But knows how to cover it up so he never gets caught.
Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
Thanks

If I were you, I would be glad to be getting what you're getting. I don't want to sound nasty in this post, but there are a lot of father's out there that don't pay a damn thing to help support their child(ren). I get so tired of women saying, I'm not getting what I deserve. (I am a woman, mind you). $500 is more than enough to assist with supporting a child, especially if she is only 11. He is not responsible for supporting the child 100%, you are responsible for supporting her as well.
If he's cheating on his taxes, the IRS will catch up with him. If you are that concerned about not "getting what you deserve" talk to him about it and see if he is willing to help out anymore. If, on paper, he only makes $25,000/year, then $500/month is more than 20% of his income that is required for CS.

My daughter is 11, I was never married to father, he moved from PA to NC when I found out I was pregnant. Since, I've been married for 8 years have 3 other children. He has since been living with someone for the past 9 years and has recently been engaged and had another baby. The girlfriend recently found out that he had been cheating on her, and they just recently broke up. He wants nothing to do with his other baby at this time.
I have begun talking to ex-girlfriend because she now calls me because she is concerned about my daughter, since she primarily took care of her when she was down there.
Right now we have a verbal child support agreement for $500.00/ month. I do not currently work, but will be working as a teacher soon. He also pays for her to fly down there to see him once a month. I really want to go through domestic relations and get what I deserve for my daughter. The problem is he obviously lies and cheats about his true income. On paper he makes $25,000/year, but he owns his own business and drives a Mercedes. I am not sure what to do, I could really use some advice. I know he has to be lying on his income tax. His ex has even confirmed that she knows he pockets alot of money without ever claiming it. But knows how to cover it up so he never gets caught.
Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
Thanks
Why, all of the sudden, do you feel you need to "get what you deserve for you daughter"? Have you not been recieving child support? Don't get me wrong, you are free and justified to get a court order, but you need to realize that you will most likely not get what you have been recieving. His income will be taken from his past tax statements and pay statements. If he has only been claiming $25,000/year (and being successful at it, I might add) what makes you think that YOU will be able to prove that he is lying? CSE is not in the business of auditing verified tax returns.

I would also like to know the LEGAL answer to this too, I am kinda in the same situation as his boss lies for him. I dont get payments anyways but at the point I do I dont think he should get any breaks. No matter how much he is paying, even if it were $3,000 a month if he isnt reporting his income correctly ITS WRONG!!!! It isnt money for you its money for your child and as long as you are spending it that way it should be calculated on the correct information.

Why, all of the sudden, do you feel you need to "get what you deserve for you daughter"? Have you not been recieving child support? Don't get me wrong, you are free and justified to get a court order, but you need to realize that you will most likely not get what you have been recieving. His income will be taken from his past tax statements and pay statements. If he has only been claiming $25,000/year (and being successful at it, I might add) what makes you think that YOU will be able to prove that he is lying? CSE is not in the business of auditing verified tax returns.

Well, I guess there is no answer, thats the understanding I have had from reading other posts.... The nonpaying dead beat in my case gets away with murder!!! All these people in his life than enable him to get the easy way out... OKay Im going off topic since I am not in the exact same situation as her. I will leave the vent alone...=-(

My daughter is 11, I was never married to father, he moved from PA to NC when I found out I was pregnant. Since, I've been married for 8 years have 3 other children. He has since been living with someone for the past 9 years and has recently been engaged and had another baby. The girlfriend recently found out that he had been cheating on her, and they just recently broke up. He wants nothing to do with his other baby at this time.
I have begun talking to ex-girlfriend because she now calls me because she is concerned about my daughter, since she primarily took care of her when she was down there.
Right now we have a verbal child support agreement for $500.00/ month. I do not currently work, but will be working as a teacher soon. He also pays for her to fly down there to see him once a month. I really want to go through domestic relations and get what I deserve for my daughter. The problem is he obviously lies and cheats about his true income. On paper he makes $25,000/year, but he owns his own business and drives a Mercedes. I am not sure what to do, I could really use some advice. I know he has to be lying on his income tax. His ex has even confirmed that she knows he pockets alot of money without ever claiming it. But knows how to cover it up so he never gets caught.
Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
Thanks
I agree with the other posters, if you cannot prove that he's earning more than $25k the court will set the CS on that amount. And it will be LESS than what he is voluntarily paying. Further, you need to ask yourself how he might react if you take him to court. Is it possible that he would get angry and stop paying altogether? Read some of the other threads on here and you'll find that unfortunately trying to collect CS through court can be almost impossible when the NCP just doesn't want to pay.

A person who owns thier own business is not always well off, quite often they really don't have much profit after paying all business expenses and virtually double SS taxes. Having a Mercedes is also not always a sign of wealth either. Proving that he earns more than he claims will be a very very costly (because of subpoena costs, etc) and complicated thing to do.

All in all, since he is voluntarily paying more than what the court would order, and is a part of his child's life and even pays for transport costs, my suggestion is to let sleeping dog's lie. If in the future he stops paying you always have the option of going to court, but right now it may not work to your advantage to do so.

Well I Wish I Had The Answers Too. Iam In OkLAHOMA Have A 17 Year Old Daughter Who Graduates Next Year. I Was Married To Her Father Who Went To Prison For 15 Years He Got Out Last Year Back Support Is Now $40,000.00. I Faught Till I Finally Got Thru By Calling My Governor And Begging For Help. Iam Not Complaining I Do Now Recieve $300.00 Current And $100.00 Back A Month Thru Garnishment Of His Job. Last Year I Recieved $1355.00 On His Federal Tax Return This Year That Dropped To $292.00. Get This There A Loop Hole He Can Claim As Many Dependents He Wants Thruout The Year So Less Tax Is Held Out. Then When He Files Only Claim Himself Cause He Has No Dependents He One Will Owe Taxes Or Get A Smaller Amount Back Witch In Return Gives Me A Smaller Amount. At This Rate He Will Never Pay Me Off. Now Thats From The Job He Is Admitting To His Family Owns A Buisness Also He Works Under The Table There And I Cant Prove It!! He Drives New Vehicels Owns His Own Home And Lives Life To The Fullest. Everything In His Parents Name So I Cant Touch It. So Be Happy For What Iam Getting Well What About The 15 Years I Did All My Self Why Should He Beable To Have Less Taxes Held Out To Keep Me From Getting Money He Owes?? Anyone With Any Advice Help

Well I Wish I Had The Answers Too. Iam In OkLAHOMA Have A 17 Year Old Daughter Who Graduates Next Year. I Was Married To Her Father Who Went To Prison For 15 Years He Got Out Last Year Back Support Is Now $40,000.00. I Faught Till I Finally Got Thru By Calling My Governor And Begging For Help. Iam Not Complaining I Do Now Recieve $300.00 Current And $100.00 Back A Month Thru Garnishment Of His Job. Last Year I Recieved $1355.00 On His Federal Tax Return This Year That Dropped To $292.00. Get This There A Loop Hole He Can Claim As Many Dependents He Wants Thruout The Year So Less Tax Is Held Out. Then When He Files Only Claim Himself Cause He Has No Dependents He One Will Owe Taxes Or Get A Smaller Amount Back Witch In Return Gives Me A Smaller Amount. At This Rate He Will Never Pay Me Off. Now Thats From The Job He Is Admitting To His Family Owns A Buisness Also He Works Under The Table There And I Cant Prove It!! He Drives New Vehicels Owns His Own Home And Lives Life To The Fullest. Everything In His Parents Name So I Cant Touch It. So Be Happy For What Iam Getting Well What About The 15 Years I Did All My Self Why Should He Beable To Have Less Taxes Held Out To Keep Me From Getting Money He Owes?? Anyone With Any Advice Help
I understand your frustration about the taxes, however, that is really not a loop hole to avoid paying arrears. We all have the right to claim more dependents throughout the year to lower our witholding. The only time that it's wrong is when the taxpayer ends up owing the IRS instead of getting a refund.
Don't worry about the arrears, he'll still have to pay them anyway. Plus the IRS intercepts will stop when your child reaches the age of majority anyway.

It May Not Be A Loop Hole For Most Of Us, However If You Owe $40,000.00 In Back Support And You Have A Wage Garnishment Then It Is A Loop Hole. Theres A Crack In The System!!!! I Know Its Just My Opioion But The Judge Ordered Your Taxes To Be Paid To Me You Shouldnt Beable To Lower The Amount To Avoid This. My Order Reads That The $300.oo I Recieve Now For Current And The $100 For Back A Month Will Not Change When My Daughter Turns 18 He Will Have To Continue To Pay The Full $400 Till All Arrears Are Paid. How Can They Stop The Holding His Taxes Because She Turns 18 He Still Owes The Money??? I Know There Are Guys Out There Who Do There Best To Take Care Of Thier Children But After 15 Years Of Not Paying A Dime I Feel It Shouldnt Matter That My Child Is 18 Iam So Tired Of Getting Him Then Starting Over Because Of Cs Laws. It Makes No Sence. There Has To Be Away!!! Hes Not Married He Has No Other Children So He Is Single And One Dep. He Shouldnt Be Able To Claim Any More. I Know All This Because He Is Liveing With My Sister And They Are Expecting There First Child. Yeah How Sick Is That?? Jerry Sringer Is Where I Need To Go Haha

It May Not Be A Loop Hole For Most Of Us, However If You Owe $40,000.00 In Back Support And You Have A Wage Garnishment Then It Is A Loop Hole. Theres A Crack In The System!!!! I Know Its Just My Opioion But The Judge Ordered Your Taxes To Be Paid To Me You Shouldnt Beable To Lower The Amount To Avoid This. My Order Reads That The $300.oo I Recieve Now For Current And The $100 For Back A Month Will Not Change When My Daughter Turns 18 He Will Have To Continue To Pay The Full $400 Till All Arrears Are Paid. How Can They Stop The Holding His Taxes Because She Turns 18 He Still Owes The Money??? I Know There Are Guys Out There Who Do There Best To Take Care Of Thier Children But After 15 Years Of Not Paying A Dime I Feel It Shouldnt Matter That My Child Is 18 Iam So Tired Of Getting Him Then Starting Over Because Of Cs Laws. It Makes No Sence. There Has To Be Away!!! Hes Not Married He Has No Other Children So He Is Single And One Dep. He Shouldnt Be Able To Claim Any More. I Know All This Because He Is Liveing With My Sister And They Are Expecting There First Child. Yeah How Sick Is That?? Jerry Sringer Is Where I Need To Go Haha
As I said, I completely understand your frustration, and like you, I don't understand why IRS intercepts cannot be done after the child's emancipation. However, it is the way things are. You cannot change that part, so why stress over it.

You are fortunate that they are still making him pay the full $400.00, just accept it and live your life. The point I'm trying to make is this- you had to raise your child by yourself which I'm sure was stressful, so why continue the stress by allowing yourself to get upset about the taxes? As long as he's paying the amount the court ordered don't worry about it.