I Have A 6 Year Old Daughter Who's So Call Dad Is A Dead Beat. I Have Had Him Picked Up So Many Times For Child Support. But All They Do Is Put Him In Jail For 30 Days Or Less. Then When He Gets Out He Signs A Paper Saying After Out Of Jail For 3 Days He'll Pay The Friend Of The Court $500.00. Well Every Time He Signs The Paper He Doesn' Do It. I Have Only Gotten Around $200.00 For Support In The Past 6 Year (daughter Is 6). Her Dad Is A Drug User And Like To Party Alot. He Lives With His Parents Who Protect And Lie For Him (especially His Mom). His Parents And Other Family Members That Live There Also Do Drugs, Drink And Party. My Daughter And I Live With My Parents. My Father Supports My Daughter As If She Was His Own. If It Wasn't For My Parents My Daughter Would Not Have The Kind Of Life A Child Should Have. When My Daughter Started Kindagarden Her Dad And His Parents Said That They Would Help Buy Her Some School Clothes. Well They Lied To My Daughter. They Didn't Even As Much As Get Her A Pair Of Socks. Her Grandfather (my Dad) Got Her Every Thing She Needs For School. And He Payed Alot Of Money To Get Her Started To School Which He Didn't Mind. When I Mention Child Support To My Daughters Dad He Always Comes Up With This Line "your Dads Old And He Makes Good Money Let Him Support Her". Now If You Ask Me That's Not Right. It's Not My Dads Responablity To Support My Daughter. He Was Ordered By The Court To Pay $25.00 A Week (which Is Nothing). And He Couldn't Even Do That. He Has Another Daughter That's Around 7 Or 8 Who He Doesn't Pay For Eather. Plus His New Girlfriend Now Is Expecting His Baby. So There's Another Baby Coming Into The World That Some One Else Is Going To Have To Support. He's The Type That Will Not Sign Over His Rights. He Tells Me And His Other Daughters Mother That He May Never See His Child And Never Support Her But He Will Never Sign Over His Rights. To Me That Sounds Like A Dad That Doesn't Care. It's More Like He Getting Back At The Mothers For Leaving Him Because He's A Cheater And A Drug User And So Forth. He Has Been In Trouble With The Law For Drugs, Drunk Driving, Shoplifting, Sells Of Drugs And So On.he Tells Me That Every Time He Goes To Jail For Child Support It's More Like A Vacation. This Way He Can Catch Up With His Rest From All The Parting He Does When He's Out. Just Last Week I Got A Letter From The Friend Of The Court Of Visitation. I Know He Has Just As Much Rights To Visit Her. But What Rights Does A Child Have If Her Dad Is A Drug User. I Have Never Denined Him To See His Daughter. I Would Take Her Over To His House To Visit Him. But When I Found Out He Was Still Into Drugs I Quite Doing It. My Father Is In The Process Of Hiring Me A Lawyer For Child Support. He Fells That My Daughter Dad Should Have Responable Of Supporting His Child. And Any Other Child He Brings Into This World. Something Needs To Be Done To Stop These Dead Beats From Getting Away With Not Paying Child Support. Dont You Think So.

maybe i missed something here.why arent you working?why arent you supporting your daughter? I am in no way saying what he has done is right,just wondering what you are doing for your daughter.

I Have A 6 Year Old Daughter Who's So Call Dad Is A Dead Beat. I Have Had Him Picked Up So Many Times For Child Support. But All They Do Is Put Him In Jail For 30 Days Or Less. Then When He Gets Out He Signs A Paper Saying After Out Of Jail For 3 Days He'll Pay The Friend Of The Court $500.00. Well Every Time He Signs The Paper He Doesn' Do It. I Have Only Gotten Around $200.00 For Support In The Past 6 Year (daughter Is 6). Her Dad Is A Drug User And Like To Party Alot. He Lives With His Parents Who Protect And Lie For Him (especially His Mom). His Parents And Other Family Members That Live There Also Do Drugs, Drink And Party. My Daughter And I Live With My Parents. My Father Supports My Daughter As If She Was His Own. If It Wasn't For My Parents My Daughter Would Not Have The Kind Of Life A Child Should Have. When My Daughter Started Kindagarden Her Dad And His Parents Said That They Would Help Buy Her Some School Clothes. Well They Lied To My Daughter. They Didn't Even As Much As Get Her A Pair Of Socks. Her Grandfather (my Dad) Got Her Every Thing She Needs For School. And He Payed Alot Of Money To Get Her Started To School Which He Didn't Mind. When I Mention Child Support To My Daughters Dad He Always Comes Up With This Line "your Dads Old And He Makes Good Money Let Him Support Her". Now If You Ask Me That's Not Right. It's Not My Dads Responablity To Support My Daughter. He Was Ordered By The Court To Pay $25.00 A Week (which Is Nothing). And He Couldn't Even Do That. He Has Another Daughter That's Around 7 Or 8 Who He Doesn't Pay For Eather. Plus His New Girlfriend Now Is Expecting His Baby. So There's Another Baby Coming Into The World That Some One Else Is Going To Have To Support. He's The Type That Will Not Sign Over His Rights. He Tells Me And His Other Daughters Mother That He May Never See His Child And Never Support Her But He Will Never Sign Over His Rights. To Me That Sounds Like A Dad That Doesn't Care. It's More Like He Getting Back At The Mothers For Leaving Him Because He's A Cheater And A Drug User And So Forth. He Has Been In Trouble With The Law For Drugs, Drunk Driving, Shoplifting, Sells Of Drugs And So On.he Tells Me That Every Time He Goes To Jail For Child Support It's More Like A Vacation. This Way He Can Catch Up With His Rest From All The Parting He Does When He's Out. Just Last Week I Got A Letter From The Friend Of The Court Of Visitation. I Know He Has Just As Much Rights To Visit Her. But What Rights Does A Child Have If Her Dad Is A Drug User. I Have Never Denined Him To See His Daughter. I Would Take Her Over To His House To Visit Him. But When I Found Out He Was Still Into Drugs I Quite Doing It. My Father Is In The Process Of Hiring Me A Lawyer For Child Support. He Fells That My Daughter Dad Should Have Responable Of Supporting His Child. And Any Other Child He Brings Into This World. Something Needs To Be Done To Stop These Dead Beats From Getting Away With Not Paying Child Support. Dont You Think So.
Was there a question in there somewhere or are you just venting? And I have to ask the same thing that frustrated did. Are you working to help support your daughter? You have to know by now that it is a wasted effort to get him to pay support. You are wasting energy, money and time on him when you could be lavishing that time on your daughter. Don't get me wrong. I fully understand your righteous anger, but there comes a time to decide if you are going to dwell on the loser, or invest your time and energy in your daughter. This is when I have to believe that karma can be a *****. It will come back to bite him in the butt. Now, feel better? :D

Was there a question in there somewhere or are you just venting? And I have to ask the same thing that frustrated did. Are you working to help support your daughter? You have to know by now that it is a wasted effort to get him to pay support. You are wasting energy, money and time on him when you could be lavishing that time on your daughter. Don't get me wrong. I fully understand your righteous anger, but there comes a time to decide if you are going to dwell on the loser, or invest your time and energy in your daughter. This is when I have to believe that karma can be a *****. It will come back to bite him in the butt. Now, feel better? :D
Yes there is a (?) in there. The (?) is where is the rights for a child. And to your other (?) Yes! I do work and I spend all my energy on my daughter. As for karma "what ever". I've had to many people tell me "wait till karma gets him". Well I don't see karma doing to much to him. It's more of karma has hit my daughter and I. As for me having anger in me? Yes I'm angery. Because he will not take his half of the responablity. Shore this has been going on for only 6 years. And it may go on untill my daughter is of age. I still want to know "WHAT RIGHTS DOES A CHILD HAVE" :confused:

Yes there is a (?) in there. The (?) is where is the rights for a child. And to your other (?) Yes! I do work and I spend all my energy on my daughter. As for karma "what ever". I've had to many people tell me "wait till karma gets him". Well I don't see karma doing to much to him. It's more of karma has hit my daughter and I. As for me having anger in me? Yes I'm angery. Because he will not take his half of the responablity. Shore this has been going on for only 6 years. And it may go on untill my daughter is of age. I still want to know "WHAT RIGHTS DOES A CHILD HAVE" :confused:
Well, first of all, if you want an answer, you will stop being hateful. Second, your child has the right to be supported by both parents. Your recourse is to keep on the enforcement. Depending on what state you are in, you may have grounds to file for termination of his rights if he will not voluntarily sign them over. Keep in mind that if his rights are terminated, so are all of his responsibilities. I will be nice and not mention the rest of what I think about this situation.

maybe i missed something here.why arent you working?why arent you supporting your daughter? I am in no way saying what he has done is right,just wondering what you are doing for your daughter.
First of all i never said that i did or didn't work. Just because i live at home with my parents you assume i don't work. Well i do work. Shore my parents help my daughter and i out alot. But i help them when they need me. It may not be money wise but when they need me i'm there to help in any way i can.

First of all i never said that i did or didn't work. Just because i live at home with my parents you assume i don't work. Well i do work. Shore my parents help my daughter and i out alot. But i help them when they need me. It may not be money wise but when they need me i'm there to help in any way i can.
No you didn't say. You gave great detail about you father supporting your daughter. That is why we asked. ;)

Well, first of all, if you want an answer, you will stop being hateful. Second, your child has the right to be supported by both parents. Your recourse is to keep on the enforcement. Depending on what state you are in, you may have grounds to file for termination of his rights if he will not voluntarily sign them over. Keep in mind that if his rights are terminated, so are all of his responsibilities. I will be nice and not mention the rest of what I think about this situation.
I know that if his rights were terminated that he would have no responsibilities. Which is fine with me. But right now he has the rights and he doesn't take the responsiblities. And please don't hold back what you have to say. I can take anything you dish out. As for what state we live in it's Michigan.

I know that if his rights were terminated that he would have no responsibilities. Which is fine with me. But right now he has the rights and he doesn't take the responsiblities. And please don't hold back what you have to say. I can take anything you dish out. As for what state we live in it's Michigan.
No the rest is irrelevant lecturing that has nothing to offer you as far as help. So, there is no need for it. Your post made me angry, and I should have not said anything at all. Sorry. Give me aminute to look some things up.

No you didn't say. You gave great detail about you father supporting your daughter. That is why we asked. ;)
I forgot to mention it and forgot to say what state we lived in (michigan).

No the rest is irrelevant lecturing that has nothing to offer you as far as help. So, there is no need for it. Your post made me angry, and I should have not said anything at all. Sorry. Give me aminute to look some things up.
Why would my post make you angry. All i said was the truth about a dead beat dad. Need to go for now. Will answer all your post later :)

In Michigan, from what I can find, the only way to terminate parental rights is in the case of adoption. So, if you were married, and your husband was willing to adopt, it would be a possibility. Sorry.

Here is a link that will get you to the statutes for child support and enforcement.

www.law.cornell.edu/topics/state_statutes.html

click on criminal code
scroll down to the family law section
click on "children" under the heading of Michigan
act 233 of 1968
section 722.3

In Michigan, from what I can find, the only way to terminate parental rights is in the case of adoption. So, if you were married, and your husband was willing to adopt, it would be a possibility. Sorry.

Here is a link that will get you to the statutes for child support and enforcement.

www.law.cornell.edu/topics/state_statutes.html

click on criminal code
scroll down to the family law section
click on "children" under the heading of Michigan
act 233 of 1968
section 722.3
First of all we were not married (thank god). I'm going to check out the information you sent me. Thanks :)

First of all we were not married (thank god). I'm going to check out the information you sent me. Thanks :)
No, if you were married to someone else. If your child had a step father, and he was willing to adopt your daughter. :)

No, if you were married to someone else. If your child had a step father, and he was willing to adopt your daughter. :)
I'm not getting married. But the mother of his other daughter is getting married and he wants to adopt her daughter. When the mother asked him to sign over his rights he told her that he didn't care if he never sees the girl or ever pays support. He was not signing over his right. The man that she's going to marry wants to adopt the little girl. Now from what i under stand you can't do that if the birth dad doesn't sign over his rights (right) :confused:

I'm not getting married. But the mother of his other daughter is getting married and he wants to adopt her daughter. When the mother asked him to sign over his rights he told her that he didn't care if he never sees the girl or ever pays support. He was not signing over his right. The man that she's going to marry wants to adopt the little girl. Now from what i under stand you can't do that if the birth dad doesn't sign over his rights (right) :confused:
That is why I said that it may be possible to legally terminate his parental rights through the court. If he has not paid child support and he has had no contact with the child, sometimes a judge will terminate the rights if it is in the best interest of the child. In most states, there must be a step parent willing to adopt the child, usually after the parent and the step parent have been married for at least a year. This may be an option for the other mother, but as you are not married, it will not be for you. So, stay on the enforcement.

[QUOTE=mommyof4]That is why I said that it may be possible to legally terminate his parental rights through the court. If he has not paid child support and he has had no contact with the child, sometimes a judge will terminate the rights if it is in the best interest of the child. In most states, there must be a step parent willing to adopt the child, usually after the parent and the step parent have been married for at least a year. This may be an option for the other mother, but as you are not married, it will not be for you. So, stay on the enforcement.[/QUOI
I don't think i'll ever get married. To much pain if you ask me. My parents are not married and they been together for 34 years. My father has been married before but my mother never has. She says that if they were married they probley would of been divorced by now. They been talking about getting married but my mom is scared. Why she's scared i don't know. :eek: