On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)
wrote:
But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today.


I believe you are correct in this statement Di..

Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about
her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that
she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the
papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not
tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'.

Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO

Jackie

Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO Jackie

Betrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Note
that nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All have
made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for
Cindy's death.

Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO Jackie

Betrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Note
that nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All have
made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for
Cindy's death.

>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)Date: 5/24/2004 9:02 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <9a095db9.0405241902.7c4de9d1@posting.google.com>Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in messagenews:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death.

Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.


-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)Date: 5/24/2004 9:02 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <9a095db9.0405241902.7c4de9d1@posting.google.com>Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in messagenews:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death.

Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.


-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040525012226.18981.00001871@mb-m13.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)Date: 5/24/2004 9:02 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <9a095db9.0405241902.7c4de9d1@posting.google.com>Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in messagenews:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote: >But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding the >point of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns' >dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire her >child. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen another >couple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death. Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.
Cite your evidence and prove me wrong.

Di

------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040525012226.18981.00001871@mb-m13.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)Date: 5/24/2004 9:02 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <9a095db9.0405241902.7c4de9d1@posting.google.com>Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in messagenews:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote: >But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding the >point of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns' >dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire her >child. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen another >couple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death. Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.
Cite your evidence and prove me wrong.

Di

------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

On 24 May 2004 20:02:51 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)
wrote:
Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death.

Its basically why some people will not post here..

Jackie

On 24 May 2004 20:02:51 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian)
wrote:
Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding thepoint of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire herchild. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen anothercouple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO JackieBetrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Notethat nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All havemade excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions forCindy's death.

Its basically why some people will not post here..

Jackie

in article fev8b05ribghdr04vb54p2dknsgl6906ge@4ax.com, Jackie at
forgetit@me.com wrote on 26/5/04 12:23 pm:
On 24 May 2004 20:02:51 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote: Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:> But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding the> point of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'> dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire her> child. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen another> couple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO Jackie Betrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Note that nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All have made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for Cindy's death. Its basically why some people will not post here.. Jackie

If it upsets you so much that most people would prefer to hear the outcome
of an official inquest or at least something a bit more substantial than
hearsay and title tattle, before making all of the ridiculously wild
accusations that you and Di and your ilk are making, then why don't you
follow their example and sling your hook off back to adoption.com, now?

Robin

in article fev8b05ribghdr04vb54p2dknsgl6906ge@4ax.com, Jackie at
forgetit@me.com wrote on 26/5/04 12:23 pm:
On 24 May 2004 20:02:51 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote: Jackie <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:<k3v3b0tqt7vgkactok6blbvbf7l0q761vl@4ax.com>... On 23 May 2004 22:12:30 -0700, patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote:> But if it make you feel good, you go right ahead and keep avoiding the> point of this discussion by making your excuses for Susan Burns'> dishonesty and the lies she promised Cindy in order to acquire her> child. Had she been honest with her, Cindy might have chosen another> couple with some integrity, and might still be alive today. I believe you are correct in this statement Di.. Where was the human respect? Why did Susan Burns not tell Cindy about her book? Why did the husband (who picked up the baby) tell Cindy that she could have 'more' when Cindy asked for it before she signed the papers? Why did the lawyer (who she went to after this was said) not tell Cindy that she did not have any real legal right to 'more'. Its betrayal.. Its betrayal on a level that is beyond the pale.. IMO Jackie Betrayal of the mother is quite acceptable to this ng, Jackie. Note that nobody here has once condemned Susan Burns for hers. All have made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for Cindy's death. Its basically why some people will not post here.. Jackie

If it upsets you so much that most people would prefer to hear the outcome
of an official inquest or at least something a bit more substantial than
hearsay and title tattle, before making all of the ridiculously wild
accusations that you and Di and your ilk are making, then why don't you
follow their example and sling your hook off back to adoption.com, now?

Robin

patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote in message news:<9a095db9.0405251850.453bef0@posting.google.com>... lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040525012226.18981.00001871@mb-m13.aol.com>.All have made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for Cindy's death. Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.



I can't improve on that.
Bull****'s what it is.


Cite your evidence and prove me wrong.
You're the one making the accusations.
The onus is on you to cite your evidence and prove yourself right.



Rh. Di ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote in message news:<9a095db9.0405251850.453bef0@posting.google.com>... lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040525012226.18981.00001871@mb-m13.aol.com>.All have made excuses for her by blaming everything BUT her actions for Cindy's death. Oh bull****, Di. Simply bull****.



I can't improve on that.
Bull****'s what it is.


Cite your evidence and prove me wrong.
You're the one making the accusations.
The onus is on you to cite your evidence and prove yourself right.



Rh. Di ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown