S. O. Damocles
11-11-2004, 04:39 PM
Resident Samuel wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:24:22 GMT, "Fenris" <howl@themoon.com> wrote: "Resident Samuel" <raccoon@forest.net> wrote in message news:gll7p0tf7rig0g3n4arclta8vn2u7qe1qs@4ax.com... On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:45:38 GMT, "Fenris" <howl@themoon.com> wrote: > The problem is that if we exempt ourselves from the > Geneva Convention then other countries will do the > same. Here's a clue - the terrorists don't abide by ANY conventions you blithering nincompoop! Terrorists are also not part of the group, "other countries" They infest them moron, and they ARE our enemy to deal with!
Time for you to EAT MORE ****, scummy you lying scumbag!
"If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist"
September 19, 2004
William Marina
While delegates to the GOP convention were congratulating themselves for their
candidate's tough stand against terrorism, the Bush administration was creating
an international incident-little publicized in the United States-by harboring a
notorious group of international terrorists on U.S. soil.
Earlier this month, three anti-Castro Cuban exiles flew to Miami from Panama
after serving four years in prison for "endangering public safety." They were
arrested in 2000 for plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro by planting explosives
at a meeting the Cuban dictator planned to hold with university students in
Panama.
The average convicted terrorist does not just waltz past U.S. immigration
authorities in this post-9/11 age of orange alerts, "no fly" lists and shoe
searches. Senator Edward Kennedy reportedly gets stopped by airport authorities
every time he tries to make a flight, allegedly because the "Kennedy" name
appears on a database of suspects.
Only political influence exerted at the highest level could account for
terrorists reentering U.S. borders without impediment, despite rap sheets
extending back as long as forty years:
a.. Pedro Rémon, sentenced to seven years for the bomb plot in Panama, pleaded
guilty in 1986 to bombing Cuba's mission to the United Nations and later
conspiring to murder its ambassador to the UN. A New York detective also
fingered Rémon for the machine-gun murders of two political opponents.
b.. Gaspar Jiménez, sentenced to eight years for the Panama bomb plot and
falsifying documents, had previously served time in Mexico for the attempted
kidnapping and murder of Cuban diplomats there. He was also indicted in Florida
for blowing the legs off a liberal Miami radio talk show host in 1976. (The
indictment was eventually dropped for insufficient evidence, even though the
main witness passed several lie-detector tests.)
c.. Guillermo Novo, sentenced to 7 years for the Panama terror plot, was
arrested in 1964 for firing a bazooka at the United Nations, where Che Guevara
was speaking. In 1978, he was convicted of participating in one of the worst
acts of terrorism ever committed on U.S. soil, the car bombing in Washington,
D.C. of former Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. (The conviction was
later overturned on a technicality, though Novo was convicted of perjury.)
d.. A fourth Panama conspirator, Louis Posada Carriles, left Panama for
Honduras. He is still wanted in Venezuela on charges of bombing a Cuban airliner
in 1976, killing all 73 passengers. In 1998, in an interview with the New York
Times from a hideout in Central America, Posada admitted taking part in numerous
acts of terrorism, including a wave of Havana hotel bombings in 1997 that killed
an Italian tourist. He said his violence was funded by prominent U.S.-based
supporters in the Cuban exile community.
The release of these terrorists from Panama-ordered by its outgoing
president-has caused a furor in Central America. Venezuela recalled its
ambassador and Cuba severed diplomatic relations with Panama.
Honduras also protested. "I will . . . demand that the United States and Panama
explain how Posada Carriles used a false U.S. passport," declared Honduran
President Ricardo Maduro. "How did that airplane leave Panama with Posada
Carriles, reach Honduras, and wind up in the United States?"
"We know we're dealing with important international influences," the president
added.
Those influences no doubt include the fact that Posada was trained by the CIA in
the 1960s in sabotage techniques, remained on the CIA payroll into the 1970s,
and in the mid-1980s (after escaping from a Venezuelan jail) assisted the Reagan
administration's covert supply operation on behalf of the Nicaraguan Contras.
Then there's the undeniable fact that Cuban exile terrorists enjoy strong
political support in the swing state of Florida, thanks to organized lobbying by
such groups as the Cuban American National Foundation. That explains why
President Bush, in 2001, rejected the advice of the FBI and freed from INS
custody two convicted colleagues of Guillermo Novo in the Letelier
assassination.
Conservatives have long (and rightly) derided the glib phrase, "one man's
terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." The incoming Panamanian president,
Martin Torrijos, likewise stood on principle when he rejected his predecessor's
decision to pardon the terrorists, saying, "For me, there are not two classes of
terrorism, one that is condemned and another that is pardoned. . . . It has to
be fought no matter what its origins."
Three years ago, after 9/11, President Bush appeared to draw the same line in
the sand. Addressing members of the 101st Airborne Division, he declared, "If
you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist."
Today, Americans should ask whether those tough words were only rhetoric,
quickly forgotten when political convenience dictates.
Time for you to EAT MORE ****, scummy you lying scumbag!
"If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist"
September 19, 2004
William Marina
While delegates to the GOP convention were congratulating themselves for their
candidate's tough stand against terrorism, the Bush administration was creating
an international incident-little publicized in the United States-by harboring a
notorious group of international terrorists on U.S. soil.
Earlier this month, three anti-Castro Cuban exiles flew to Miami from Panama
after serving four years in prison for "endangering public safety." They were
arrested in 2000 for plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro by planting explosives
at a meeting the Cuban dictator planned to hold with university students in
Panama.
The average convicted terrorist does not just waltz past U.S. immigration
authorities in this post-9/11 age of orange alerts, "no fly" lists and shoe
searches. Senator Edward Kennedy reportedly gets stopped by airport authorities
every time he tries to make a flight, allegedly because the "Kennedy" name
appears on a database of suspects.
Only political influence exerted at the highest level could account for
terrorists reentering U.S. borders without impediment, despite rap sheets
extending back as long as forty years:
a.. Pedro Rémon, sentenced to seven years for the bomb plot in Panama, pleaded
guilty in 1986 to bombing Cuba's mission to the United Nations and later
conspiring to murder its ambassador to the UN. A New York detective also
fingered Rémon for the machine-gun murders of two political opponents.
b.. Gaspar Jiménez, sentenced to eight years for the Panama bomb plot and
falsifying documents, had previously served time in Mexico for the attempted
kidnapping and murder of Cuban diplomats there. He was also indicted in Florida
for blowing the legs off a liberal Miami radio talk show host in 1976. (The
indictment was eventually dropped for insufficient evidence, even though the
main witness passed several lie-detector tests.)
c.. Guillermo Novo, sentenced to 7 years for the Panama terror plot, was
arrested in 1964 for firing a bazooka at the United Nations, where Che Guevara
was speaking. In 1978, he was convicted of participating in one of the worst
acts of terrorism ever committed on U.S. soil, the car bombing in Washington,
D.C. of former Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. (The conviction was
later overturned on a technicality, though Novo was convicted of perjury.)
d.. A fourth Panama conspirator, Louis Posada Carriles, left Panama for
Honduras. He is still wanted in Venezuela on charges of bombing a Cuban airliner
in 1976, killing all 73 passengers. In 1998, in an interview with the New York
Times from a hideout in Central America, Posada admitted taking part in numerous
acts of terrorism, including a wave of Havana hotel bombings in 1997 that killed
an Italian tourist. He said his violence was funded by prominent U.S.-based
supporters in the Cuban exile community.
The release of these terrorists from Panama-ordered by its outgoing
president-has caused a furor in Central America. Venezuela recalled its
ambassador and Cuba severed diplomatic relations with Panama.
Honduras also protested. "I will . . . demand that the United States and Panama
explain how Posada Carriles used a false U.S. passport," declared Honduran
President Ricardo Maduro. "How did that airplane leave Panama with Posada
Carriles, reach Honduras, and wind up in the United States?"
"We know we're dealing with important international influences," the president
added.
Those influences no doubt include the fact that Posada was trained by the CIA in
the 1960s in sabotage techniques, remained on the CIA payroll into the 1970s,
and in the mid-1980s (after escaping from a Venezuelan jail) assisted the Reagan
administration's covert supply operation on behalf of the Nicaraguan Contras.
Then there's the undeniable fact that Cuban exile terrorists enjoy strong
political support in the swing state of Florida, thanks to organized lobbying by
such groups as the Cuban American National Foundation. That explains why
President Bush, in 2001, rejected the advice of the FBI and freed from INS
custody two convicted colleagues of Guillermo Novo in the Letelier
assassination.
Conservatives have long (and rightly) derided the glib phrase, "one man's
terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." The incoming Panamanian president,
Martin Torrijos, likewise stood on principle when he rejected his predecessor's
decision to pardon the terrorists, saying, "For me, there are not two classes of
terrorism, one that is condemned and another that is pardoned. . . . It has to
be fought no matter what its origins."
Three years ago, after 9/11, President Bush appeared to draw the same line in
the sand. Addressing members of the 101st Airborne Division, he declared, "If
you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist."
Today, Americans should ask whether those tough words were only rhetoric,
quickly forgotten when political convenience dictates.
