On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner"
<maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.Marley

There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion..

A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a
lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.
All hidden from view..


Jackie

in article rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com, Jackie at
forgetit@me.com wrote on 19/5/04 1:00 pm:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote: As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability at some level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems to equate "private" with secret. Marley

There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..


Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?

Robin

in article rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com, Jackie at
forgetit@me.com wrote on 19/5/04 1:00 pm:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote: As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability at some level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems to equate "private" with secret. Marley

There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..


Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?

Robin

"Jackie" <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message
news:rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com... On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability
atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. Jackie

So can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA.

Marley

"Jackie" <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message
news:rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com... On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability
atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. Jackie

So can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA.

Marley

"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:omJqc.26361$hH.581524@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "Jackie" <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com... On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. Jackie So can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA. Marley

Right which is why open records are so important.

Kathy 1

"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:omJqc.26361$hH.581524@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "Jackie" <forgetit@me.com> wrote in message news:rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com... On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. Jackie So can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA. Marley

Right which is why open records are so important.

Kathy 1

>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: Jackie forgetit@me.comDate: 5/19/04 5:00 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com>On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner"<maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.MarleyThere is no accountability.. Not in my opinion..A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..Jackie

All records are hidden from view. Your point?
Kathy

>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: Jackie forgetit@me.comDate: 5/19/04 5:00 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com>On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner"<maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.MarleyThere is no accountability.. Not in my opinion..A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..Jackie

All records are hidden from view. Your point?
Kathy

In article <BCD115C2.410F3%zenoplatsis@harritt.net>, Robin says...in article rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com, Jackie atforgetit@me.com wrote on 19/5/04 1:00 pm: On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote: As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability at some level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems to equate "private" with secret. Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?

I don't understand what she means about "No records visible". I've seen my
abro's records and I can assure you they're quite visible.

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

In article <BCD115C2.410F3%zenoplatsis@harritt.net>, Robin says...in article rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com, Jackie atforgetit@me.com wrote on 19/5/04 1:00 pm: On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote: As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability at some level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems to equate "private" with secret. Marley There is no accountability.. Not in my opinion.. A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?

I don't understand what she means about "No records visible". I've seen my
abro's records and I can assure you they're quite visible.

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

In article <rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com>, Jackie says...On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner"<maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.MarleyThere is no accountability.. Not in my opinion..A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..

Oh, baloney. I've seen my abro's records. Aren't you aware that a private
adoption still goes through the courts?

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

In article <rtima01o6jmu7tevp1kmcu91bniep7hm9j@4ax.com>, Jackie says...On Tue, 18 May 2004 15:42:02 GMT, "Marley Greiner"<maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:As much as I hate the state, at least in theory, there's accountability atsome level. Still, I'm still not seeing Jackie's point which seems toequate "private" with secret.MarleyThere is no accountability.. Not in my opinion..A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..

Oh, baloney. I've seen my abro's records. Aren't you aware that a private
adoption still goes through the courts?

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

Jackie! You've gone nutty!
A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view.. >>




P2P

Jackie! You've gone nutty!
A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view.. >>




P2P

>> A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?Robin

Clearly a bump on the head. This has become comical.


P2P

>> A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view..Has she had a knock on the head recently do you think?Robin

Clearly a bump on the head. This has become comical.


P2P

>> A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. JackieSo can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA.Marley


Ssshhhh, Marley. You might wake Jackie from her catatonic state.


P2P

>> A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use a lawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible. All hidden from view.. JackieSo can agency adoptions. Just ask any LDA.Marley


Ssshhhh, Marley. You might wake Jackie from her catatonic state.


P2P

>>A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..Oh, baloney. I've seen my abro's records. Aren't you aware that a privateadoption still goes through the courts?Robyn


The courts! The home study people! The medical care providers! The parties
providing insurance coverage! Friends! Neighbors! Family members! The staff
working at the attorney's office! Counselors! The departments of vital stats
who issue new birth certificates!


P2P

>>A private adoption can be kept totally secret.. A woman can just use alawyer and walk away. Get lost in the crowd.. No records visible.All hidden from view..Oh, baloney. I've seen my abro's records. Aren't you aware that a privateadoption still goes through the courts?Robyn


The courts! The home study people! The medical care providers! The parties
providing insurance coverage! Friends! Neighbors! Family members! The staff
working at the attorney's office! Counselors! The departments of vital stats
who issue new birth certificates!


P2P