patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?
No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)
actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and
they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a
figment of my imagination.
Rupa
Julia
05-19-2004, 02:47 AM
On 18 May 2004 23:28:33 -0700, rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)
wrote:
patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa
As I've met you, you are either real or you and your kids would have
to be figments of my imagination too.
But then nobody is sure that I exist either (except you, Rupa, and we
haven't established whether you are real).
Julia
Julia
05-19-2004, 02:47 AM
On 18 May 2004 23:28:33 -0700, rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose)
wrote:
patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa
As I've met you, you are either real or you and your kids would have
to be figments of my imagination too.
But then nobody is sure that I exist either (except you, Rupa, and we
haven't established whether you are real).
Julia
J.
05-19-2004, 07:01 AM
>patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa
I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.
J.
Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
J.
05-19-2004, 07:01 AM
>patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa
I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.
J.
Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Rupa Bose
05-19-2004, 08:32 AM
Julia <jurol@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<93bma0t7lijctme4qdjeafeilahf586f2i@4ax.com>... On 18 May 2004 23:28:33 -0700, rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose) wrote:patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa As I've met you, you are either real or you and your kids would have to be figments of my imagination too. But then nobody is sure that I exist either (except you, Rupa, and we haven't established whether you are real). Julia
Well, you clearly don't, Julia, you're too good to be true. You're our
collective ng delusion...
However, I enjoyed meeting you (and a couple of your kids), and so I
guess I'm an illusion, too.
Rupa
Rupa Bose
05-19-2004, 08:32 AM
Julia <jurol@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<93bma0t7lijctme4qdjeafeilahf586f2i@4ax.com>... On 18 May 2004 23:28:33 -0700, rkbose@pacific.net.sg (Rupa Bose) wrote:patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa As I've met you, you are either real or you and your kids would have to be figments of my imagination too. But then nobody is sure that I exist either (except you, Rupa, and we haven't established whether you are real). Julia
Well, you clearly don't, Julia, you're too good to be true. You're our
collective ng delusion...
However, I enjoyed meeting you (and a couple of your kids), and so I
guess I'm an illusion, too.
Rupa
Kathy
05-19-2004, 08:59 AM
>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.)Date: 5/19/04 7:01 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.
I know you are, but what am I?
Kathy
Kathy
05-19-2004, 08:59 AM
>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.)Date: 5/19/04 7:01 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.
I know you are, but what am I?
Kathy
Palms2pines
05-19-2004, 12:44 PM
>Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.I know you are, but what am I?Kathy
LOL! An exchange clearly on the verge of a downward spiral.
P2P
Palms2pines
05-19-2004, 12:44 PM
>Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.I know you are, but what am I?Kathy
LOL! An exchange clearly on the verge of a downward spiral.
P2P
Rupa Bose
05-19-2004, 02:30 PM
jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in message news:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.
It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....
Rupa
Rupa Bose
05-19-2004, 02:30 PM
jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in message news:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.
It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....
Rupa
J.
05-19-2004, 03:30 PM
>jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote>> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....Rupa
My god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.
J.
J.
05-19-2004, 03:30 PM
>jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote>> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, andthey could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be afigment of my imagination.Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....Rupa
My god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.
J.
Robibnikoff
05-19-2004, 04:14 PM
In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>... >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote >> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say? > >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter) >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a >figment of my imagination. > >Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.
<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
05-19-2004, 04:14 PM
In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>... >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote >> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say? > >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter) >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a >figment of my imagination. > >Rupa I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me. J.It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.
<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
J.
05-19-2004, 05:00 PM
>In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...> >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote> >>> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your> >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at> >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular> >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?> >> >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)> >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and> >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a> >figment of my imagination.> >> >Rupa>>> I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.>> J.>It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557
All things garden for which one might lust.
J.
Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
J.
05-19-2004, 05:00 PM
>In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in messagenews:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...> >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote> >>> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your> >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at> >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular> >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?> >> >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)> >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and> >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a> >figment of my imagination.> >> >Rupa>>> I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.>> J.>It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557
All things garden for which one might lust.
J.
Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 03:01 AM
In article <20040519200023.07978.00001279@mb-m27.aol.com>, J. says...In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...>jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in message>news:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...>> >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote>> >>>> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your>> >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at>> >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular>> >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?>> >>> >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)>> >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and>> >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a>> >figment of my imagination.>> >>> >Rupa>>>>>> I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.>>>> J.>>>>It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....>>RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557All things garden for which one might lust.
Hmm, wouldn't do much for me. Unfortunately I have a black thumb ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 03:01 AM
In article <20040519200023.07978.00001279@mb-m27.aol.com>, J. says...In article <20040519183016.01933.00001716@mb-m05.aol.com>, J. says...>jmdjmh@aol.compostible (J.) wrote in message>news:<20040519100152.21796.00001664@mb-m15.aol.com>...>> >patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) wrote>> >>>> >> Much like requiring evidential proof that you didn't steal your>> >> achild, as opposed to blindly believing your own version of events at>> >> face value? Without proof to the contrary, is there a particular>> >> reason why we should believe anything you have to say?>> >>> >No, more like requiring proof that she (or any of us, for that matter)>> >actually has a child. I claim two, but you've never seen them, and>> >they could be figments of my imagination. Come to that, I could be a>> >figment of my imagination.>> >>> >Rupa>>>>>> I think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.>>>> J.>>>>It's the solipsistic version of the little engine that could....>>RupaMy god, I had the same thought. Must be that garden porn I've been reading.<boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557All things garden for which one might lust.
Hmm, wouldn't do much for me. Unfortunately I have a black thumb ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
WhansaMi
05-20-2004, 04:59 AM
>>><boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557All things garden for which one might lust.
Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)
Sheila
WhansaMi
05-20-2004, 04:59 AM
>>><boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)RobynResident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster#1557All things garden for which one might lust.
Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)
Sheila
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 06:18 AM
In article <20040520075942.09877.00000177@mb-m03.aol.com>, WhansaMi says...><boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)>>Robyn>Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster>#1557All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)
Ah, that makes me think of the neighbor I grew up with - He went on to become an
award-winner landscaper. He was pretty darn hot (and my first kiss - Woo!) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 06:18 AM
In article <20040520075942.09877.00000177@mb-m03.aol.com>, WhansaMi says...><boggle> Garden porn?!? Does it involve rakes and fertilizer? ;)>>Robyn>Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster>#1557All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)
Ah, that makes me think of the neighbor I grew up with - He went on to become an
award-winner landscaper. He was pretty darn hot (and my first kiss - Woo!) :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Kathy
05-20-2004, 08:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: palms2pines@aol.comh8spam (Palms2pines)Date: 5/19/04 12:44 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <20040519154441.12117.00000358@mb-m26.aol.com>Come to that, I could be a>figment of my imagination.>>RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.I know you are, but what am I?KathyLOL! An exchange clearly on the verge of a downward spiral.
Sort of like most of these threads...Oy!
Kathy
Kathy
05-20-2004, 08:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Legally Enforceable Open Adoption?From: palms2pines@aol.comh8spam (Palms2pines)Date: 5/19/04 12:44 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <20040519154441.12117.00000358@mb-m26.aol.com>Come to that, I could be a>figment of my imagination.>>RupaI think I am, therefore I am? Good enough for me.J.I know you are, but what am I?KathyLOL! An exchange clearly on the verge of a downward spiral.
Sort of like most of these threads...Oy!
Kathy
Palms2pines
05-20-2004, 11:20 AM
>>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)Sheila
You're baaaaad.
P2P
Palms2pines
05-20-2004, 11:20 AM
>>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)Sheila
You're baaaaad.
P2P
WhansaMi
05-20-2004, 11:45 AM
>>>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)SheilaYou're baaaaad.P2P
I know.... <sigh> The sad thing is, given the bladder infection earlier this
week, and my cramps yesterday and today, I really was thinking of them doing
the damned yard work!
However, next week I could mean it in an entirely different way! ;-)))
Sheila
WhansaMi
05-20-2004, 11:45 AM
>>>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)SheilaYou're baaaaad.P2P
I know.... <sigh> The sad thing is, given the bladder infection earlier this
week, and my cramps yesterday and today, I really was thinking of them doing
the damned yard work!
However, next week I could mean it in an entirely different way! ;-)))
Sheila
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 12:29 PM
In article <20040520144550.09877.00000222@mb-m03.aol.com>, WhansaMi says...>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)SheilaYou're baaaaad.P2PI know.... <sigh> The sad thing is, given the bladder infection earlier thisweek, and my cramps yesterday and today, I really was thinking of them doingthe damned yard work!However, next week I could mean it in an entirely different way! ;-)))
Whoa! ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
05-20-2004, 12:29 PM
In article <20040520144550.09877.00000222@mb-m03.aol.com>, WhansaMi says...>>All things garden for which one might lust.Ummm... for me that would be the landscaping crew. ;-)SheilaYou're baaaaad.P2PI know.... <sigh> The sad thing is, given the bladder infection earlier thisweek, and my cramps yesterday and today, I really was thinking of them doingthe damned yard work!However, next week I could mean it in an entirely different way! ;-)))
Whoa! ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
megan
05-20-2004, 11:25 PM
mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote in message news:<eb5515c9.0405201531.5fae14e0@posting.google.com>... Sunday Times (London) May 09, 2004 Sec. 1, p. 21 Child traffickers prey on Romania Jon Swain and Ann McElhinney, Bucharest She left even though Romania and Spain are signatories to the UN's international convention on children's rights, which forbids inter-country adoptions of children in foster care. Those who miss her in Romania say they will never recover.
Which Article of the Convention forbids the adoption of children in
foster care?
Someone has not been doing his research.
The full text of the convention is available on the UNICEF website.
Pay particular attention to article 21
Megan
megan
05-20-2004, 11:25 PM
mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote in message news:<eb5515c9.0405201531.5fae14e0@posting.google.com>... Sunday Times (London) May 09, 2004 Sec. 1, p. 21 Child traffickers prey on Romania Jon Swain and Ann McElhinney, Bucharest She left even though Romania and Spain are signatories to the UN's international convention on children's rights, which forbids inter-country adoptions of children in foster care. Those who miss her in Romania say they will never recover.
Which Article of the Convention forbids the adoption of children in
foster care?
Someone has not been doing his research.
The full text of the convention is available on the UNICEF website.
Pay particular attention to article 21
Megan
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