i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure

even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency

i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless

i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day

do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die

my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

Millions of Business are doing this DAILY. The CHEAT so GO AHEAD
You wont get in trouble as long as you are not Caught!!


"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message
news:ck6mqo$5fj$0@pita.alt.net...i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be homeless i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i die my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to behomeless

Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.

Joel'
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a daydo you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be myonly source of income till i diemy only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message
news:ck6mqo$5fj$0@pita.alt.net... i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to
be homeless i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i die my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?


Why not talk with a full time beggar?

Seriously.

I sit and talk with them all the time when I'm downtown. Pull
up and cop a squat on the park bench next to 'em. I'll share
my lunch or a smoke or just some conversation.

I'm sure you find that most are lucky to generate 10% of
the revenue figures you mention above -- on a GoodDay, and
on a BadDay, will make literally nothing.

They'll have the inside track on the local law enforcement
scene, shelters, food banks, etc. and can answer your
questions.

To answer your question -- no I don't think it's a good
idea. I do think, however, if you find some street folks
and get to know 'em real well, you'll understand for yourself
why it's not such a GoodIdea. Only you can judge for
yourself. Make it your mission to talk with three full-time
beggars a week for the next week or three.

To tell you, honestly, if you're looking at this *seriously*,
then "trouble with the law" could be just what you need.
They'll put you up in a heated/air-conditioned room for
two, with 3 meals a day, healthcare, dental, gym, excercise
yard -- you get it. "Three hots-and-a-cot" from the local
county jail would surely beat living on the streets.

--
Wow! Those grubs at the Golden Horseshoe Saloon are a good deal!
"Joel M. Eichen" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cqqdm0l7i49mvovnfvq5v6oumsvn2rc578@4ax.com... On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now duetolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about tobehomeless Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.
He should apply for disability. Most states won't give welfare to men, and
those that do don't pay ejnough to live on.

One problem. They turn down everyone the first couple times. You could be
paralized from the neck down and get turned down for disability. It will
probably take more than a year before he gets his first check.

destitute wrote: i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be homeless
Yet you have internet access? Sort of like all the people in the food
bank line in New York City who had cable TV.


i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, or
whatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleted
uranium from the first Gulf War.


do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i die
The huge government we have that spends most of its money on social
programmes never even crossed your mind? Failing that, go to a church,
tell them you love Jesus (or Buddha, Mohammed, that Moon guy who marries
thousands at a whack as appropriate) and see if they will let you sleep
in a pew.


my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
What sort of trouble that all the other people who are begging on the
side of the road don't seem to get into?


--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:37:03 GMT, "Bootstrap Bill"
<wrcousert@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Joel M. Eichen" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:cqqdm0l7i49mvovnfvq5v6oumsvn2rc578@4ax .com... On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now duetolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about tobehomeless Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.He should apply for disability. Most states won't give welfare to men, andthose that do don't pay ejnough to live on.

Right you are! THANKS.

Joel
One problem. They turn down everyone the first couple times. You could beparalized from the neck down and get turned down for disability. It willprobably take more than a year before he gets his first check.

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to behomelessi have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a daydo you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be myonly source of income till i diemy only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
try selling your computer and stop paying for a connection

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:36:47 -0400, "Sgt. Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
Why not talk with a full time beggar?

Around here, many charge you a consultation fee, however, if you are
just shopping (for a good street corner) some offer the first
half-hour's advice for only $25.

Joel

Seriously.I sit and talk with them all the time when I'm downtown. Pullup and cop a squat on the park bench next to 'em.

Not too-o-oo-o-o-oo close now ...

Know what cooties are?

I'll sharemy lunch or a smoke or just some conversation.I'm sure you find that most are lucky to generate 10% ofthe revenue figures you mention above -- on a GoodDay, andon a BadDay, will make literally nothing.They'll have the inside track on the local law enforcementscene, shelters, food banks, etc. and can answer yourquestions.To answer your question -- no I don't think it's a goodidea. I do think, however, if you find some street folksand get to know 'em real well, you'll understand for yourselfwhy it's not such a GoodIdea. Only you can judge foryourself. Make it your mission to talk with three full-timebeggars a week for the next week or three.To tell you, honestly, if you're looking at this *seriously*,then "trouble with the law" could be just what you need.They'll put you up in a heated/air-conditioned room fortwo, with 3 meals a day, healthcare, dental, gym, excerciseyard -- you get it. "Three hots-and-a-cot" from the localcounty jail would surely beat living on the streets.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle
of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
destitute wrote: i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be homelessYet you have internet access? Sort of like all the people in the foodbank line in New York City who had cable TV.

Ahemmmmm. All beggars have internet access. How else would they be
able to keep up with the latest developments at www.beggar.com or vote
for their international president.?

Joel

i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a dayClaim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, orwhatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleteduranium from the first Gulf War. do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i dieThe huge government we have that spends most of its money on socialprogrammes never even crossed your mind? Failing that, go to a church,tell them you love Jesus (or Buddha, Mohammed, that Moon guy who marriesthousands at a whack as appropriate) and see if they will let you sleepin a pew. my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?What sort of trouble that all the other people who are begging on theside of the road don't seem to get into?

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to behomelessBetter apply for welfare .. that's what its for.Joel'

Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare
or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T
EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings
along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to
death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?

Em
Be careful what you wish for....

"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in message
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<snip> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connection


How do you know it's *his* computer and connection?
Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?


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Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?

It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your
Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay
your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay
for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your
life.

If it could, there would be nobody online.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?

Did he buy a token to get to the library .....?

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Joe wrote: Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip> > try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection? It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your life. If it could, there would be nobody online.
CompuServe used to charge like 15 bucks an hour to be online. Kept the
riff-raff offline, it did.



--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"

It's hard to believe that no temp or job agency will place you in any type
of employment. The temp agencies around here will just about accept anyone
who truly wants to work regardless of past employment history, experience,
physical condition... but screw them over on assignments too many times by
not coming in or complaining and they will blacklist you quick. Local temp
agencies usually "talk" among themselves, so screw one over and none of them
may want you. Don't expect good pay or easy conditions, but if you truly
want to work and make money some temp agency will hire you.

Also, think of your hobbies and interests and how you could possibly make a
buck doing them. Everyone does at least one thing well.

"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message
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i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency

"Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle of Epping Forest '' )"
<stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:41671874.50A28A6C@backpacker.com... Joe wrote: Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip>> >> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and
connection? It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your life. If it could, there would be nobody online. CompuServe used to charge like 15 bucks an hour to be online. Kept the riff-raff offline, it did.

And the trend of unlimited internet access for a low price became popular
and the "riff-raff" was everywhere on the internet, eventually becoming out
of hand. A perfect example is Bill Bonde


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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?

learn how to read a header

"Joel M. Eichen" wrote: "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agency

You have been unemployed because you were caring for your terminally-ill
aunt in South Dakota. Cancer is good, you can probably find a story on
the net to appropriate.
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to behomeless

Learn to act crazy. See below.
Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.

Somebody told you that you couldn't do both?
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a daydo you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be myonly source of income till i diemy only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

How? All they can do is roust you or give you an overnight stay until
you sober up, if necessary. Make up a fake name and don't carry your
driver's license. Let THEM prove you don't live in the shrubbery by the
underpass.

Maybe if you stand in the middle of a freeway overpass with a WILL JUMP
FOR FOOD sign you could make more than just looking pitiful at an
off-ramp.

There's a local loon who threatens to jump from freeway overpasses every
couple of months or so. One of the cops now specializes in people like
this. The cop talks him down/off, they clean him up, hold him for psych
evaluation for a couple of weeks and then turn him loose. I've read
about at least a dozen of his attempts. He did actually jump once,
smashed his foot-bones and was fitted with prosthetic devices at public
expense. If I saw him I'd start chanting JUMP JUMP JUMP just to see
what happens. He's clearly a danger to the public as well as himself
and ought to be locked up somewhere. Period.

--
Cheers,
Bev
``````````````````````````````````````````````````
Where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket?

"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in message
news:928em05tqhjesgj3ambgb05bvot5il026n@4ax.com... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in messagenews:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax .com... <snip> > try selling your computer and stop paying for a connectionHow do you know it's *his* computer and connection?Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and
connection? learn how to read a header


If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to read
them...


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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:58:23 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:

If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to readthem...

like the jerk who wants to be a professional beggar, you'll need to
find things out for yourself

"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message news:<ck6mqo$5fj$0@pita.alt.net>... i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be homeless i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i die my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

You mean you plan to cheat on your income tax? Begging is legal in
some places but not reporting it as income is illegal.

> i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day

Actually more...look how much the two beggers make that are
trying to lead our country.

Auntie Em <AuntieEM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5o0em0974ev8vnus8nb4rp8fiseq0j5cn3@4ax.com>... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to behomelessBetter apply for welfare .. that's what its for.Joel' Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?

In New York State a single person earning a gross monthly income
of $973 a month is eligable for $141 in food stamps. I didn't
bother with checking the other 49 since you asked for just one.

"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in message
news:q7cem051jv6mbusmn0bgi151kti2bsdqar@4ax.com... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:58:23 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to readthem... like the jerk who wants to be a professional beggar, you'll need to find things out for yourself


Oh.. OK... I could really care less about the header... I thought that you
were volunteering your services though.


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Chuck wrote: "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:41671874.50A28A6C@backpacker.com... Joe wrote: Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote: > >"127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in message >news:qisdm09e6a14mg615u4k3cmvtejq73m1cn@4ax.com... > > <snip> >> > >> try selling your computer and stop paying for a connection > > >How do you know it's *his* computer and connection? >Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection? It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your life. If it could, there would be nobody online. CompuServe used to charge like 15 bucks an hour to be online. Kept the riff-raff offline, it did. And the trend of unlimited internet access for a low price became popular and the "riff-raff" was everywhere on the internet, eventually becoming out of hand. A perfect example is Bill Bonde
I don't have to be told not to take a leak in the corner, like in that
movie.

Chuck wrote: "127.0.0.1" <jd@cs.com> wrote in message news:q7cem051jv6mbusmn0bgi151kti2bsdqar@4ax.com... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:58:23 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to readthem... like the jerk who wants to be a professional beggar, you'll need to find things out for yourself Oh.. OK... I could really care less about the header... I thought that you were volunteering your services though.
So you could care less?


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brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agency

You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots
of people telecommute full time.

--
Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle
of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, orwhatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleteduranium from the first Gulf War.

Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a Hare
Krishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and be
respected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you get
to go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.

"Scott en Aztlán" wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agency You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots of people telecommute full time.

You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told about
this before?

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Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
Why should I be tarred with the epithet "loony" merely
because I have a pet halibut? --Monty Python

"The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:41676D87.BFBB5AE1@myrealbox.com... "Scott en Aztlán" wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agency You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots of people telecommute full time.
You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told about this before?

Trailer trash with viking fantasys need not apply.

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Wow! Those grubs at the Golden Horseshoe Saloon are a good deal!
"Auntie Em" <AuntieEM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5o0em0974ev8vnus8nb4rp8fiseq0j5cn3@4ax.com... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now duetolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agencyi have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about tobehomelessBetter apply for welfare .. that's what its for.Joel' Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?
Yes it does exist. Los Angeles county pays single people $212 per month plus
$120 in food stamps. I have a neighbor who was receiving for a short time
after his unemployment ran out.

Single people can get food stamps anywhere in the country.. None of this is
free money however. Able bodied people are required to work for it by doing
some form of community service.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:51:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battleof Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, orwhatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleteduranium from the first Gulf War.Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a HareKrishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and berespected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you getto go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.

Where do you buy discount orange robes and get those little clacker
things?

On 8 Oct 2004 19:05:21 -0700, smiths213@famsafe.net (Gary) wrote:
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day Actually more...look how much the two beggers make that aretrying to lead our country.


EXCELLENT!

But its hard worr-r-r-r-r-rr--r-k I hear.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:48:07 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:
"Scott en Aztlán" wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health conditionthat is permanent, has no cureeven though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due tolong term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant evenget a job through job agency You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots of people telecommute full time.You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told aboutthis before?

There are gazillions of signs on telephone poles, stuck in mailboxes,
and on car windshields ... WORK FROM HOME ... but I think they are all
"SIGN UP OTHERS ..." to work from home!

Its a huge Ponzi scheme!

Joel

"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in ... i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure

you can't mow lawns, can't give massage, internet is flooded with money scams,
your health wouldn't stop you doing business consulting over the web, save up
$500 and get a traffic name like freeadvice.biz. that ones probably available to register,
to get customers just email all the similar sites (a few hundred hand done emails) and ask
for a link. its the webmasters code, the only way you get something for nothing is trade links.
*networking in a nutshell*. I make $5 a day off the net doing nothing, took me a while, adds
to unemployment payment nicely.

you can do it!

Herc

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<snip>
.... your health wouldn't stop you doing business consulting over the web, save
up $500 and get a traffic name like freeadvice.biz. that ones probably
available to register,

<snip>

Or you could go to http://www.godaddy.com and get that, or any other .biz
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:22:57 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, orwhatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleteduranium from the first Gulf War.Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a HareKrishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and berespected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you getto go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.Where do you buy discount orange robes and get those little clackerthings?


Halloween costumes will do pretty well. The clacker thingies have
been around for at least 2000 years. Itinerant monks made their own
so can you. The Goodwill grab bin is a good place to start.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:48:07 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:
You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots of people telecommute full time.You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told aboutthis before?

Haven't you been reading your SPAM lately?

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:28:28 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:22:57 -0400, Joel M. Eichen<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:>Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, or>whatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleted>uranium from the first Gulf War.Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a HareKrishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and berespected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you getto go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.Where do you buy discount orange robes and get those little clackerthings?Halloween costumes will do pretty well. The clacker thingies havebeen around for at least 2000 years. Itinerant monks made their ownso can you. The Goodwill grab bin is a good place to start.

If you have a cell phone with photo capability please snap a few
piccies and post them!

Joel

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:29:36 -0700, Scott en Aztlán
<slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:
Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy.

OK tell us why not?

Joel

"Joel M. Eichen" wrote: On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:51:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battleof Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, orwhatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleteduranium from the first Gulf War.Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a HareKrishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and berespected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you getto go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep. Where do you buy discount orange robes and get those little clacker things?
From Martha Stewart and flamenco dancers you've clobbered on the head,
in that order.


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"...and least of all would have believed that in time of deadly need men
could die at arm’s length of plenty, sooner than touch food they did not
know. In vain the interpreters interpreted; in vain his two policemen
showed in vigorous pantomime what should be done. The starving crept
away to their bark and weeds, grubs, leaves, and clay, and left the open
sacks untouched.", Rudyard Kipling, "William the Conquerer"

Have you tried McDonalds? Or Walmart?

"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message
news:ck6mqo$5fj$0@pita.alt.net... i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition that is permanent, has no cure even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even get a job through job agency i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to
be homeless i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my only source of income till i die my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?

Joel M. Eichen wrote: There are gazillions of signs on telephone poles, stuck in mailboxes, and on car windshields ... WORK FROM HOME ... but I think they are all "SIGN UP OTHERS ..." to work from home!

someone in sacramento california researched all the ones in their area...

they were ALL for herbalife.

huge ponzi scam. herbalife will sell "distributorships" to anyone who
asks, and buys a ****load of their worthless product. there are no
territories, no boundaries.

a chick at work used to sell the stuff, then she blew up about 50lbs. i
noticed she doesnt wear her "lose weight now, ask me how" button any more :)

the only formula that *may* have worked was the stuff with ephedra. i
used to use a generic (metaboLITE)from sams club, and it gave me a
noticeable boost due to the ephedra and caffeine. add 32 oz of coffee,
and i was no longer hungry, and bouncing off the walls. and nauseas, and
sweating. but the last thing i wanted to do was eat or take a nap :)

On 8 Oct 2004 19:28:11 -0700, bicycle@charter.net (R.White) wrote:
Auntie Em <AuntieEM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5o0em0974ev8vnus8nb4rp8fiseq0j5cn3@4ax.com>... On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>wrote:>i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition>that is permanent, has no cure>>even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to>long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even>get a job through job agency>>i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be>homelessBetter apply for welfare .. that's what its for.Joel' Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?In New York State a single person earning a gross monthly incomeof $973 a month is eligable for $141 in food stamps. I didn'tbother with checking the other 49 since you asked for just one.

well, according to
http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/rules/Memo/PRWORA/abawds/ABAWDsPage.htm

"The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act
of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of food stamps to 3 months in a
3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who
are not working, participating in, and complying with the requirements
of a work program for 20 hours or more each week, or a workfare
program."

So I amend my statement by saying that for 33 months out of 36 the US
of A would just as soon watch you starve or freeze to death.

Of course, those with any number of illigetimate children are not
required to do anything except sit on their butts and watch Oprah and
the gub'ment will gladly feel, clothe and house them forever and ever.

Ah, America - don'tcha love it?

Em


Be careful what you wish for....

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Wow! Those grubs at the Golden Horseshoe Saloon are a good deal!
"Auntie Em" <AuntieEM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ovggm0lqe3m6albr7phlg8lkan4hvjve95@4ax.com... "The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of food stamps to 3 months in a 3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who are not working, participating in, and complying with the requirements of a work program for 20 hours or more each week, or a workfare program." So I amend my statement by saying that for 33 months out of 36 the US of A would just as soon watch you starve or freeze to death.
Comply with the work program and you can continue to receive food stamps for
as long as you need them.

Why should you expect the government to give you free money when there is
plenty of work to do to get it?

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:37:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Halloween costumes will do pretty well. The clacker thingies havebeen around for at least 2000 years. Itinerant monks made their ownso can you. The Goodwill grab bin is a good place to start.If you have a cell phone with photo capability please snap a fewpiccies and post them!

Surprisingly the most monks I had seen in costume were at Disneyland
Calif. where they like kids in a candy store.

The monks in my city are pretty discrete and well supported by the
Buddhist community. They don't need to beg. I'll need to go into
their temple to take photos and I think that will be rather impolite.

One easy source of video information is just that, There are dozens
of kunfu and samurai flicks that have beggar monks you can draw
inspiration from. And they kick fight pretty impressively too. You
don't want to say no to these guys when they rattle that klickklack at
you.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:44:00 GMT, SoCalMike
<mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
Joel M. Eichen wrote: There are gazillions of signs on telephone poles, stuck in mailboxes, and on car windshields ... WORK FROM HOME ... but I think they are all "SIGN UP OTHERS ..." to work from home!someone in sacramento california researched all the ones in their area...they were ALL for herbalife.huge ponzi scam. herbalife will sell "distributorships" to anyone whoasks, and buys a ****load of their worthless product. there are noterritories, no boundaries.

Stuff was recently outlawed as it contains ephedrine ... The founder
Mark Hughes died before he was 40.

Joel
a chick at work used to sell the stuff, then she blew up about 50lbs. inoticed she doesnt wear her "lose weight now, ask me how" button any more :)the only formula that *may* have worked was the stuff with ephedra. iused to use a generic (metaboLITE)from sams club, and it gave me anoticeable boost due to the ephedra and caffeine. add 32 oz of coffee,and i was no longer hungry, and bouncing off the walls. and nauseas, andsweating. but the last thing i wanted to do was eat or take a nap :)

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:48:20 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:37:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:Halloween costumes will do pretty well. The clacker thingies havebeen around for at least 2000 years. Itinerant monks made their ownso can you. The Goodwill grab bin is a good place to start.If you have a cell phone with photo capability please snap a fewpiccies and post them!Surprisingly the most monks I had seen in costume were at DisneylandCalif. where they like kids in a candy store.

This is true. Many of the real monks in Tibet got their start at
Disneyland ....

Joel

The monks in my city are pretty discrete and well supported by theBuddhist community. They don't need to beg. I'll need to go intotheir temple to take photos and I think that will be rather impolite.

THOSE MONKS? They are all rich. Thery have Monk's Bread and B and B
booze ...... they are loaded.

Joel
One easy source of video information is just that, There are dozensof kunfu and samurai flicks that have beggar monks you can drawinspiration from. And they kick fight pretty impressively too. Youdon't want to say no to these guys when they rattle that klickklack atyou.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:48:20 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
One easy source of video information is just that, There are dozensof kunfu and samurai flicks that have beggar monks you can drawinspiration from. And they kick fight pretty impressively too. Youdon't want to say no to these guys when they rattle that klickklack atyou.


YUP, watch Crouching Tiger ...... you can learn to walk up the sides
of the walls ...

In article <p3mfm0h5oeqmuh6st35reeak3q1s0f56lo@4ax.com>,
Joel M. Eichen <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:48:07 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:"Scott en Aztlán" wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote: >i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition >that is permanent, has no cure > >even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due >to >long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even >get a job through job agency You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots of people telecommute full time.You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told aboutthis before? There are gazillions of signs on telephone poles, stuck in mailboxes, and on car windshields ... WORK FROM HOME ... but I think they are all "SIGN UP OTHERS ..." to work from home! Its a huge Ponzi scheme!

Yup. So much of those "opportunities" are literally
too good to be true.

I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a sign
saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get any
from me.


Back when I was running the fundraising Xmas Kettle thing for a local
Salvation Army (1974-5), the usual take for one kettle was $10 to $20 an
hour. Had one crazy guy, though, who could consistantly get over $300 in
10 hours. He was pathologically cheerful and friendly, would follow people
to their cars trying to get them to give.
If you think you can get $300 a day begging on a streetcorner, think
again. If you're lucky, you could probably do $100, but more likely half
that, and that's assuming the cops don't throw a wet blanket on your
entreprenureal enterprise.

If you want to make the big bucks, why not pass yourself off as a "spiritual
advisor" of some sort and give advice for $20 an hour? All you need is a
campy costume and a few sticks of incense, and you're in business.

-Tock

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"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7H_9d.2360$Lk3.1214@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had asign saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't getany from me. Back when I was running the fundraising Xmas Kettle thing for a local Salvation Army (1974-5), the usual take for one kettle was $10 to $20 an hour. Had one crazy guy, though, who could consistantly get over $300 in 10 hours. He was pathologically cheerful and friendly, would follow people to their cars trying to get them to give. If you think you can get $300 a day begging on a streetcorner, think again. If you're lucky, you could probably do $100, but more likely half that, and that's assuming the cops don't throw a wet blanket on your entreprenureal enterprise. If you want to make the big bucks, why not pass yourself off as a "spiritual advisor" of some sort and give advice for $20 an hour? All you need is a campy costume and a few sticks of incense, and you're in business. -Tock
I understand that there are professional panhandlers that make over $60k per
year.

"Joel M. Eichen" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uv4gm05pg2nk2vhpu0ks25v0b081r25kuj@4ax.com... On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:29:36 -0700, Scott en Aztlán <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy. OK tell us why not?

Because it sucks. Returned merchandise put back on the shelves without being
marked, no training for the employees, poor management...


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a chick at work used to sell the stuff, then she blew up about 50lbs.

<snip>

Oh, she must have got married, huh? :)


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"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7H_9d.2360$Lk3.1214@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m... I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a
sign saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get any from me.

<snip>

I would give to someone like that before I would give to someone that is
holding a "will work for food" sign. At least he was being honest...


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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 23:41:55 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net>
I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a signsaying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get anyfrom me.

That's okay - I'm sure others did. I've given a dollar to a guy whose
sign read "Why lie? I need a beer" I was on my way to buy beer myself.
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"Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote in message > <snip> ... your health wouldn't stop you doing business consulting over the web, save up $500 and get a traffic name like freeadvice.biz. that ones probably available to register, <snip> Or you could go to http://www.godaddy.com and get that, or any other .biz domain for the low, low price of $4.95 per year...

yeah, that would be hard work and require capital to spin off, way way better
getting something like www.iconsultant.com seen a few like that with 20 type ins
a day only a few hundred dollars. absolutely perfect if you want to actually work
on the internet, not just have a website program making cash like most others try for,
you'd get several clients a week no cost. how about we all chip in $20, 20 of us
and get his business running and get him off the street?

Herc
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 02:23:09 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
"Joel M. Eichen" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:uv4gm05pg2nk2vhpu0ks25v0b081r25kuj@4ax .com... On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:29:36 -0700, Scott en Aztlán <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy. OK tell us why not?Because it sucks. Returned merchandise put back on the shelves without beingmarked, no training for the employees, poor management...

OK, thanks. I heard that too.

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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 02:29:33 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in messagenews:7H_9d.2360$Lk3.1214@newssvr12.news.pro digy.com... I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had asign saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get any from me.<snip>I would give to someone like that before I would give to someone that isholding a "will work for food" sign. At least he was being honest...

REPLY

Yes but most of the people who have signs, "Will Work For Beer," are
secret foodaholics and just turn around and spend their money on food.

Once the food is gone, they are right back out there.

Some communities sell coupons at the liquor store and then you give
the panhandler the coupon that is only good for liquor, so you prevent
them running back to the food store!

Joel

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Auntie Em wrote: well, according to http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/rules/Memo/PRWORA/abawds/ABAWDsPage.htm "The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of food stamps to 3 months in a 3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who are not working, participating in, and complying with the requirements of a work program for 20 hours or more each week, or a workfare program." So I amend my statement by saying that for 33 months out of 36 the US of A would just as soon watch you starve or freeze to death. Of course, those with any number of illigetimate children are not required to do anything except sit on their butts and watch Oprah and the gub'ment will gladly feel, clothe and house them forever and ever. Ah, America - don'tcha love it? Em

Not exactly true here in Texas - one has to put in a specified number of
job applications per month unless one is the designated caretaker for a
child under the age of 5, I believe (kind of hard to go on interviews
dragging a kid along).

--Jane

Tock wrote:
I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a sign saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get any from me. Back when I was running the fundraising Xmas Kettle thing for a local Salvation Army (1974-5), the usual take for one kettle was $10 to $20 an hour. Had one crazy guy, though, who could consistantly get over $300 in 10 hours. He was pathologically cheerful and friendly, would follow people to their cars trying to get them to give. If you think you can get $300 a day begging on a streetcorner, think again. If you're lucky, you could probably do $100, but more likely half that, and that's assuming the cops don't throw a wet blanket on your entreprenureal enterprise. If you want to make the big bucks, why not pass yourself off as a "spiritual advisor" of some sort and give advice for $20 an hour? All you need is a campy costume and a few sticks of incense, and you're in business. -Tock

Hubby, who is a disabled vet, often opines about how much he could make
should he hang a shingle out as a "psychotic advisor".

LOL

--Jane

Chuck wrote:
"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:7H_9d.2360$Lk3.1214@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a signsaying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get anyfrom me. <snip> I would give to someone like that before I would give to someone that is holding a "will work for food" sign. At least he was being honest...

Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint,
orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the
"will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy
is crossed off her list.

--Jane

Jane Sitton wrote:
Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list.

She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow.

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================================================
The beatings will continue until morale improves

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:04:52 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Jane Sitton wrote: Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list.She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow.

The problem is that its the same burger she got in 1999.

Joel

"The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:4169C014.7A7C167E@myrealbox.com... Jane Sitton wrote: Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list. She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow.

In the Department of Questionable Karma: a few years ago when I owned rental
property in a less than great urban neighborhood, I'd stopped at a fast food
place for a snack before going to the rental to check on a problem there. A
woman approached me in the parking lot asking for a handout, and I turned
her down. I drove from there to my rental property, which was on a one-way
street with parking allowed on both sides, leaving a single lane for cars to
travel through. I'd just parked and opened my car door when a drunk driver
came around the corner and plowed into my opened door, so quickly I didn't
even have a chance to see her or close the door. Another couple seconds,
and my body would have been in her path instead of the car door.

Call me superstitious, but I later wondered if I'd made some kind of serious
error in at least not offering to take that woman inside the restaurant and
buy her a couple pieces of fried chicken.

"Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote in message news:8Tjad.35165$V06.11279@fe2.columbus.rr.com... "The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:4169C014.7A7C167E@myrealbox.com... Jane Sitton wrote: Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list. She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow. In the Department of Questionable Karma: a few years ago when I owned rental property in a less than great urban neighborhood, I'd stopped at a fast food place for a snack before going to the rental to check on a problem there. A woman approached me in the parking lot asking for a handout, and I turned her down. I drove from there to my rental property, which was on a one-way street with parking allowed on both sides, leaving a single lane for cars to travel through. I'd just parked and opened my car door when a drunk driver came around the corner and plowed into my opened door, so quickly I didn't even have a chance to see her or close the door. Another couple seconds, and my body would have been in her path instead of the car door.
Call me superstitious, but I later wondered if I'd made some kind of serious error in at least not offering to take that woman inside the restaurant and buy her a couple pieces of fried chicken.

More fool you.

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:48:20 GMT, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
"The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in messagenews:4169C014.7A7C167E@myrealbox.com... Jane Sitton wrote: Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list. She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow.In the Department of Questionable Karma: a few years ago when I owned rentalproperty in a less than great urban neighborhood, I'd stopped at a fast foodplace for a snack before going to the rental to check on a problem there. Awoman approached me in the parking lot asking for a handout, and I turnedher down. I drove from there to my rental property, which was on a one-waystreet with parking allowed on both sides, leaving a single lane for cars totravel through. I'd just parked and opened my car door when a drunk drivercame around the corner and plowed into my opened door, so quickly I didn'teven have a chance to see her or close the door. Another couple seconds,and my body would have been in her path instead of the car door.Call me superstitious, but I later wondered if I'd made some kind of seriouserror in at least not offering to take that woman inside the restaurant andbuy her a couple pieces of fried chicken.

Nah, this is a common error we harbor that Providence somehow smiles
on us.

Consider yourself fortunate and be more careful next time (as opposed
to buying the chicken and being careless next time).

This is known in logic as the Error of Bush known for a US President
who believes that God smiles down sweetly on our land while the other
side, if it came to a vote, outnumbers us greatly.

Joel

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:36:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote in message news:8Tjad.35165$V06.11279@fe2.columbus.rr.com... "The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:4169C014.7A7C167E@myrealbox.com... Jane Sitton wrote:> Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint,> orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the> "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy> is crossed off her list. She does that for every beggar she sees? Wow. In the Department of Questionable Karma: a few years ago when I owned rental property in a less than great urban neighborhood, I'd stopped at a fast food place for a snack before going to the rental to check on a problem there. A woman approached me in the parking lot asking for a handout, and I turned her down. I drove from there to my rental property, which was on a one-way street with parking allowed on both sides, leaving a single lane for cars to travel through. I'd just parked and opened my car door when a drunk driver came around the corner and plowed into my opened door, so quickly I didn't even have a chance to see her or close the door. Another couple seconds, and my body would have been in her path instead of the car door. Call me superstitious, but I later wondered if I'd made some kind of serious error in at least not offering to take that woman inside the restaurant and buy her a couple pieces of fried chicken.More fool you.

REPLY

"MORE FOOL YOU?"

You Tonto.

Me Lone Ranger.

We no talk like that.

Jane Sitton wrote:
Chuck wrote: "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:7H_9d.2360$Lk3.1214@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m... I saw a guy yesterday begging at a busy Dallas intersection . . . had a sign saying, "Need money for beer". Dunno how much he made -- didn't get any from me. <snip> I would give to someone like that before I would give to someone that is holding a "will work for food" sign. At least he was being honest... Me, too. But my best friend goes through the nearest fast food joint, orders a couple of items, and then offers it to the person holding the "will work for food" sign. If he turns it down, then she knows that guy is crossed off her list.

I did that once for a woman in Las Vegas who just had that look in her
eye. We were on our annual trip there. DH was none too pleased and
I've never did it again. We help in other charitable ways. --Jane

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:09:05 -0400, Serendipity <goaway@spammers.com>
wrote:
I did that once for a woman in Las Vegas who just had that look in hereye. We were on our annual trip there. DH was none too pleased andI've never did it again. We help in other charitable ways.

The look of, "Gee, P.T. Barnum was right ....."