On 14 Apr 2004 15:03:30 GMT, meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote:
Why would anyone want to post anything over on adoption.com? That place is fullof censorship, and seriously slanted toward adoption because of those thatsponsor this site. The pop ups are just nauseating.Btw,.. If you are against internet adoption, why do you and others continue topost there?


Because young women post letters asking for help.. Women that are in a
lot of pain and need some one to understand what they are going
through..

I try and help.. Adoption.com seems to be a place where folks start to
try and sort what is happening.. The easiest place to find..

Jackie

>Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt aBabyFrom: Jackie forgetit@me.comDate: 4/15/04 7:17 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <skvs70hdt8vt1do2lfq4hmu8al1bf1tse0@4ax.com>On 14 Apr 2004 15:03:30 GMT, meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote:Why would anyone want to post anything over on adoption.com? That place isfullof censorship, and seriously slanted toward adoption because of those thatsponsor this site. The pop ups are just nauseating.Btw,.. If you are against internet adoption, why do you and others continuetopost there?Because young women post letters asking for help.. Women that are in alot of pain and need some one to understand what they are goingthrough..I try and help.. Adoption.com seems to be a place where folks start totry and sort what is happening.. The easiest place to find..Jackie

If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group,
instead of using a site that promotes internet adopting?


Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in
baby trafficking". ~~121603
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html

in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at
meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm:

If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group,

Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone,
d'you think?

Robin

Robin wrote: in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm:If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group, Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone, d'you think? Robin

Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest
group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may
one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular
rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery,
and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption
than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm
damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-)


pb...


''If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again
be any war."

--Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored
graphic footage from the Gulf War...

>Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately AdoptFrom: Robin karakoram@postadoption.infoDate: 4/15/04 3:26 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <BCA4CAAB.3BC06%karakoram@postadoption.info>in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy atmeagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm: If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmomgroup,Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone,d'you think?Robin

Point taken...LOL


Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in
baby trafficking". ~~121603
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html

"pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com... Robin wrote: in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm:If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom
group, Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help
anyone, d'you think? Robin Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery, and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-) pb...


I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connect with
adoption.com

Kathy 1

"kat" <katlat24@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c5rjdi$52461$1@ID-203097.news.uni-berlin.de>... "pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com... Robin wrote: in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm:>If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group,> Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone, d'you think? Robin Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery, and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-) pb... I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connect with adoption.com


It's possible.
I've wondered about that myself.
And who knows where else she read, if not posted.


Rh.

Kathy 1

>Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt aBabyFrom: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon)Date: 4/17/04 3:17 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <dafc70.0404171417.474de84b@posting.google.com>"kat" <katlat24@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:<c5rjdi$52461$1@ID-203097.news.uni-berlin.de>... "pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com... Robin wrote: > in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at > meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm: > > > >>If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group, >> > > > Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone, > d'you think? > > Robin Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery, and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-) pb... I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connect with adoption.comIt's possible.I've wondered about that myself.And who knows where else she read, if not posted.Rh.

Ultimately it is Cindy's responsibility where she puts herself. (no pun
intended)




Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in
baby trafficking". ~~121603
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html

meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote in message news:<20040417202626.22959.00000024@mb-m27.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt aBabyFrom: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon)Date: 4/17/04 3:17 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <dafc70.0404171417.474de84b@posting.google.com>"kat" <katlat24@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:<c5rjdi$52461$1@ID-203097.news.uni-berlin.de>... "pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com... > Robin wrote: > > in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at > > meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm: > > > > > > > >>If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group, > >> > > > > > > Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone, > > d'you think? > > > > Robin > > Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest > group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may > one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular > rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery, > and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption > than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm > damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-) > > > pb... I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connect with adoption.com > >It's possible.I've wondered about that myself.And who knows where else she read, if not posted.Rh. Ultimately it is Cindy's responsibility where she puts herself. (no pun intended)


Eh?
Pun aside (and if there was one, intended or otherwise, I missed it),
while I don't disagree with what you say I don't see that it has
anything to do with what either Kathy or myself were saying.


Rh. Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in baby trafficking". ~~121603 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html

>Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt aBabyFrom: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon)Date: 4/18/04 9:00 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <dafc70.0404180800.66f29f8b@posting.google.com>meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote in messagenews:<20040417202626.22959.00000024@mb-m27.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately AdoptaBabyFrom: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon)Date: 4/17/04 3:17 PM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <dafc70.0404171417.474de84b@posting.google.com>"kat" <katlat24@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:<c5rjdi$52461$1@ID-203097.news.uni-berlin.de>...> "pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message> news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com...> > Robin wrote:> > > in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at> > > meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm:> > >> > >> > >> > >>If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own privatebmom group,> > >>> > >> > >> > > Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone,> > > d'you think?> > >> > > Robin> >> > Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest> > group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, manymay> > one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular> > rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery,> > and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption> > than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm> > damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-)> >> >> > pb...>>> I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connectwith> adoption.com> >> >>>>It's possible.I've wondered about that myself.And who knows where else she read, if not posted.Rh. Ultimately it is Cindy's responsibility where she puts herself. (no pun intended)Eh?Pun aside (and if there was one, intended or otherwise, I missed it),while I don't disagree with what you say I don't see that it hasanything to do with what either Kathy or myself were saying.Rh.

No, it probably didn't but so what?




Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in
baby trafficking". ~~121603
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html

meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote in message news:<20040418132125.00112.00000012@mb-m12.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt aBabyFrom: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon)Date: 4/18/04 9:00 AM Pacific Daylight TimeMessage-id: <dafc70.0404180800.66f29f8b@posting.google.com>meagan787@aol.comsthesun (Kathy) wrote in messagenews:<20040417202626.22959.00000024@mb-m27.aol.com>... >Subject: Re: Fast Track Adoption: The Faster, Safer Way to Privately Adopt a >Baby >From: sarallewellyn@gosympatico.ca (Rhiannon) >Date: 4/17/04 3:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <dafc70.0404171417.474de84b@posting.google.com> > >"kat" <katlat24@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:<c5rjdi$52461$1@ID-203097.news.uni-berlin.de>... >> "pb..." <woodlark-99@newsguy.com> wrote in message >> news:c5n3pk01eoj@news1.newsguy.com... >> > Robin wrote: >> > > in article 20040415173131.23150.00000370@mb-m22.aol.com, Kathy at >> > > meagan787@aol.comsthesun wrote on 15/4/04 10:31 pm: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>If you're intent on truly helping why not start your own private bmom group, >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > Umm...Jackie start her own private bmom group, would that truly help anyone, >> > > d'you think? >> > > >> > > Robin >> > >> > Absolutely. Birth moms have to start *somewhere*! Even if the smallest >> > group only offers the negativity involved with the victimized, many may >> > one day have their eyes opened and learn to *question* the popular >> > rhetoric...that *should* send them out on the road to self discovery, >> > and, hopefully, a better understanding of more stories about adoption >> > than those which closely match their own. It's how I learned, and I'm >> > damn glad I did...what an incredible ride it has been! ;-) >> > >> > >> > pb... >> >> >> I don't know. Cindy might have been better off if she didn't connect with >> adoption.com >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >It's possible. >I've wondered about that myself. >And who knows where else she read, if not posted. > > >Rh. Ultimately it is Cindy's responsibility where she puts herself. (no pun intended) > >Eh?Pun aside (and if there was one, intended or otherwise, I missed it),while I don't disagree with what you say I don't see that it hasanything to do with what either Kathy or myself were saying.Rh. No, it probably didn't but so what?


Funny.
I almost said that to you.


Rh. Diane Welfare, "she describes the US market as a "$US1.4 billion business in baby trafficking". ~~121603 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336884771.html