In article <16232246.0402250730.470e352e@posting.google.com>,
Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote: tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in message news:<c13qe4$h1p@rac1.wam.umd.edu>...
tjab> No, and to say that would "explain" my comment shows a poor tjab> grasp of logic on your part. Do you deny that a person could tjab> make a true accusation and still not be able to prove it beyond tjab> a reasonable doubt?Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaintwould be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation.

I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even
if you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warn
others to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sue for
libel or slander.

tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in message news:<c1ikbt$mnh@rac1.wam.umd.edu>... In article <16232246.0402250730.470e352e@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote: tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in message news:<c13qe4$h1p@rac1.wam.umd.edu>... tjab> No, and to say that would "explain" my comment shows a poor tjab> grasp of logic on your part. Do you deny that a person could tjab> make a true accusation and still not be able to prove it beyond tjab> a reasonable doubt?Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaintwould be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even if you can't prove it.

And there are also reasons women typically use for making false rape
accusations (which they obviously ocnsider 'perfectly good'),
typically they seem to amount to several classes, aliby, excuse,
extortion, and revenge. There may be others. One woman invented a rape
to feel part of the crowd at a 'take back the night march'.
For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warn others to protect themselves.

Now if only there was a mechanism to warn about women who make false
rape accusations.
If the accused doesn't like it, let him sue for libel or slander.

Can't do it, the state owns all the evidence and they don't share with
Civil Court. Further, I don't think that a police report (even if a
complete fabrication) is a basis for a Civil suite. And of course
almost everyone on the prosecutorial side has immunity.

It's like Clinton saying that there can't be much discrimination
against white men since there are almost no lawsuits in federal court.
This is a finely crafted lie, the fact is that the supreme court
removed standing for such suits, it's near impossible for a white man
to sue no matter how blatant the case.

Rich

rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in message news:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>... tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in message news:<c1ikbt$mnh@rac1.wam.umd.edu>... In article <16232246.0402250730.470e352e@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:> tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in message news:<c13qe4$h1p@rac1.wam.umd.edu>...> tjab> No, and to say that would "explain" my comment shows a poor> tjab> grasp of logic on your part. Do you deny that a person could> tjab> make a true accusation and still not be able to prove it beyond> tjab> a reasonable doubt?Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaintwould be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even if you can't prove it.

What GOOD reasons? And there are also reasons women typically use for making false rape accusations (which they obviously ocnsider 'perfectly good'), typically they seem to amount to several classes, aliby, excuse, extortion, and revenge. There may be others. One woman invented a rape to feel part of the crowd at a 'take back the night march'. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warn others to protect themselves. Now if only there was a mechanism to warn about women who make false rape accusations. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sue for libel or slander. Can't do it, the state owns all the evidence and they don't share with Civil Court. Further, I don't think that a police report (even if a complete fabrication) is a basis for a Civil suite. And of course almost everyone on the prosecutorial side has immunity. It's like Clinton saying that there can't be much discrimination against white men since there are almost no lawsuits in federal court. This is a finely crafted lie, the fact is that the supreme court removed standing for such suits, it's near impossible for a white man to sue no matter how blatant the case. Rich

In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>,
Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in message news:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>... > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaint >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even if you can't prove it.What GOOD reasons?

If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have to ask. Check
in Google.

"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in message
news:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>... > > > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the
complaint > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. > > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true
accusation even > if you can't prove it.What GOOD reasons? If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have to
ask. Check in Google.

No need to...here is quote right here as you wrote it tjab, on 2/25/04 at
9am. "I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation
even
if you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warn
others to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sue
for
libel or slander." Apparently you thought what you said here was a good
reason. Yep...the entire quote is right here, and was there albeit split up
in Sky's post, so it looks like it wasn't snipped until.....

In article <DxB%b.2934$506.498@fed1read05>, Raqui <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote:"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in messagenews:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in messagenews:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>...> > >> > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because thecomplaint> > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation.> >> > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a trueaccusation even> > if you can't prove it.What GOOD reasons? If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have toask. Check in Google.No need to...here is quote right here as you wrote it tjab, on 2/25/04 at9am. "I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusationevenif you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warnothers to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sueforlibel or slander." Apparently you thought what you said here was a goodreason.

Yep. Still do. You got a problem with that?

"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:c1nfug$8gf@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <DxB%b.2934$506.498@fed1read05>, Raqui <WestCoast@TV.com>
wrote:"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in messagenews:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote: >rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in messagenews:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>... >> > > >> > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because thecomplaint >> > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. >> > >> > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a trueaccusation even >> > if you can't prove it. > >What GOOD reasons? If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have toask. Check in Google.No need to...here is quote right here as you wrote it tjab, on 2/25/04 at9am. "I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true
accusationevenif you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to
warnothers to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sueforlibel or slander." Apparently you thought what you said here was a goodreason. Yep. Still do. You got a problem with that?

Couldn't care less. You said someone snipped the reason (wonder who?) I was
showing it was still there. You got a problem with that?

"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote in message news:<DxB%b.2934$506.498@fed1read05>... "tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in message news:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>...> > >> > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaint> > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation.> >> > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even> > if you can't prove it.What GOOD reasons? If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have to ask. Check in Google.


I said GOOD reasons!! No need to...here is quote right here as you wrote it tjab, on 2/25/04 at 9am. "I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even if you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation to warn others to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sue for libel or slander." Apparently you thought what you said here was a good reason. Yep...the entire quote is right here, and was there albeit split up in Sky's post, so it looks like it wasn't snipped until.....

In article <54I%b.3036$506.252@fed1read05>, Raqui <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote:"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in messagenews:c1nfug$8gf@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <DxB%b.2934$506.498@fed1read05>, Raqui <WestCoast@TV.com>wrote:"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in messagenews:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu...> In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>,> Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:> >rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in messagenews:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>...> >> > >> >> > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because thecomplaint> >> > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation.> >> >> >> > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a trueaccusation even> >> > if you can't prove it.> >> >What GOOD reasons?>> If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have toask. Check> in Google.No need to...here is quote right here as you wrote it tjab, on 2/25/04 at9am. "I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a trueaccusationevenif you can't prove it. For example, you may feel a moral obligation towarnothers to protect themselves. If the accused doesn't like it, let him sueforlibel or slander." Apparently you thought what you said here was a goodreason. Yep. Still do. You got a problem with that?Couldn't care less. You said someone snipped the reason (wonder who?) I wasshowing it was still there.

If it was still there, why did they ask?

In article <16232246.0402270639.1aa271f3@posting.google.com>,
Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote:"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote in message news:<DxB%b.2934$506.498@fed1read05>... "tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:c1lgis$k4v@rac3.wam.umd.edu... In article <16232246.0402260659.2ce11f86@posting.google.com>, Sky King <rebeo727@adelphia.net> wrote: >rpayne@mybluelight.com (Rich) wrote in message news:<3a256c50.0402251925.20ba5f20@posting.google.com>... >> > > >> > >Do you deny that a person may not make a complaint because the complaint >> > >would be false? If you can't prove it don't make the accusation. >> > >> > I disagree. There are perfectly good reasons to make a true accusation even >> > if you can't prove it. > >What GOOD reasons? If you or somebody else hadn't snipped the answer, you wouldn't have to ask. Check in Google.I said GOOD reasons!!

Warning others that they are in danger of rape from this person
is a good reason. If you disagree, what does that say about you?